Why in the fuck does there have to be an entire goddamn wall dedicated only to toothpaste?

I can understand if maybe there would be more than just one, for stuff like people with sensitive teeth n shit like that, but there does not need to be like a hundred different tubes of teeth cleaning goo, all claiming to do something super duper special that all the others don't.

  • Sea_Gull [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    As someone with a lot of anxiety around making the best choices in the things I get, I'd love a world where I can just get a single toothpaste tube and then go home, not worrying if that or other products I'm used to would be discontinued due to lack of profits.

    CW gross:

    spoiler

    I also remember like ten years ago when I had a supposedly premium toothpaste that peeled the looking of the inside of my mouth. Nothin severe, but in a way that's uncomfortable.

      • Mao_Zedong [comrade/them,none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Get something with 1400ppm/f or more (don't use whitening toothpaste), brush in the morning and evening, and floss after brushing in the evening. If there's any dental issues after that your dentist can help you out with em.

    • pikman1 [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      I had to switch to an alcohol-free mouthwash due to a similar problem.

    • spicymangos51 [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Omg I totally feel you on that, sometimes it's just overwhelming with choices.

      My never again toothpaste is anything with baking soda, makes my mouth feel raw and get tons of canker sores

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Could've sworn I saw a study once that showed in general, giving people more choices beyond a certain (fairly low) point made them less happy.

    • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Like I’m 99% sure all of them are manufactured in the same fucking factory

      more than that, at the factory i used to work at, the brand name biscuit and the store brand one came off the same fucking LINE lmao
      brand name: 6 for ~£1
      store brand: 10 for ~50p
      literally the exact same biscuit

      • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        do socialism, kill the store brand, make the brand name cheap, and put seasonal varieties on a public schedule.

      • PeludoPorFavor [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I worked in a meat packing plant (mostly patties and trays of ground beef) and it was basically all the same. only thing to keep in mind is the percentage of fat, but all the cows got ground up in the same place, and they all went down the same lines.

        just different labels.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    It really should be possible to objectively determine like 3 different toothpastes worth keeping and then binning the rest of them entirely. It's a tooth, you can objectively determine which toothpaste is most successful at making teeth healthier.

      • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        lemon juice worked out cheaper for me

        bottle of juice ~£1.10
        12 ish lemons to get the same amount of juice ~£3.60

        • MikeHockempalz [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          True, but juice from actual lemons tastes way, way better. Not to mention it's stronger, so you need less volume to get the same amount of flavor. Overall I think it's worth the extra effort and upfront cost

      • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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        2 years ago
        • Buy lemon
        • Use a little bit of its juice
        • You don't need any more and it goes bad
        • Throw it away

        vs just buying a small bottle of the juice that will probably stay good for much longer.

  • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    You haven't lived until you've tried X-treme Tooth Blast for MEN in the Cool Sports flavor.

    • Prole_Strongman [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Sports tastes so good. I used the sports strength deodorant and I could literally feel like a running back’s armpits for the New York giants

  • WilsonWilson [comrade/them, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I've been a patient at a dental school (i'm poor) for about 5 years. The instructors are all phd md's and I asked one of them about the difference between the two types of fluoride compounds in toothpaste and turns out the instructor did their phd with a (large N) study on the differences between the two. They said there was NO statistical difference between them. There is a big difference in price though. They said as long as proper brush technique was used any fluoride toothpaste produced the same results. There are some studies funded by toothpaste manufacturers that contradict this but the instructor seemed confident in their results. They also referenced a study that shows electric toothbrush vs regular toothbrush shows no difference again assuming proper technique. As far as technique goes they are recommending the Modified Bass technique (google if you're interested) as it helps preserve the gum/tooth interface and avoids pushing bacteria into the gum line.

    Mouth bacteria colonies form a biofilm like many other bacteria colonies do as an evolutionary survival mechanism. Your clean water pipes and sewer pipes in your house each have unique bacteria colonies that both form biofilms in the pipes. Seawater and freshwater boats also have unique bacteria colonies that form biofilms below the waterlines and so on. So the bacteria in your mouth will start to form a biofilm almost as soon as you're done brushing your teeth. After 24 hours the film will be thick enough and/or hard enough to withstand the force of nylon brushes so as long as you brush at least once every 24 hours the brush will be able to scrape the newly forming biofilm off your teeth. You need to scrape every exposed tooth surface at least every 24 hours but more frequently is good insurance since the 24 hour # is an approximation.

    The two main types of fluoride from the study were Sodium Fluoride and Stannous Fluoride. Manufacturers get a big premium for the latter. Only fluoride is listed as an active ingredient so all the other crap in toothpaste is woo.

    • Prole_Strongman [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      I had braces when I was a kid and the glue from them permanently stripped off the enamel on my teeth. I’m so prone to cavities. I brush 2-3 times a day now

      • WilsonWilson [comrade/them, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I asked about it a few years ago so I'm not sure but I have a cleaning in two months so I will ask them about it and report back.

  • Dbumba [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    The reason this exists is because of marketing.

    Line extensions create a "billboard" effect-- think of the 30-40 different kinds of oreos or flavored vodkas for example. They don't care how well the line extensions do, because now it creates a solid visual block of branding in a crowded and competitive grocery market.

    The second reason line extensions exist is to engage consumers back to the core brand. Much how like well established brands continue to spend billions in ads (McDonald's, Nike, etc) these line extensions only serve as ad vehicles to remind you they exist. Why do we need to know about new "innovate" products at Taco Bell? Because now commercials have a new talking point.

    And who knows, every once in a while, some "innovation" does ok. But really it's inconsequential if it does or not. It's just marketing, usually by big food and packaged goods brands, creating the illusion of choice. Usually, it's just a handful of big companies that create new brands or buy out other brands. Like Tom's of Maine is actually owned by Colgate, or Ben & Jerry's is actually owned by Unilever for example.

    Some big companies even compete among themselves-- for example Diageo, the biggest liquor company in the world owns both Don Julio and Casamigos-- high end aspirational tequilas. But in many states they are distributed under different division houses to maximize sales.

    The fear is if the same salesperson sold both, they'd have to pick one or the other to focus in any given market. But now with one distributor pushing Don Julio and another distributor house pushing Casamigos, you now have two sales reps dedicated to the brands respectively, instead of one who might muddle the two brands together.

    I'm not saying it's good or rational, but that's why the 50 different types of toothpaste exist. Marketing is an extremely wasteful industry for environmental waste, people's time, money, and resources.

  • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Imagine all the waste invovled into duplicating all the work flows. All those people that could literally just not work and society wouldn't change one bit. That is just capitlaism wasing our lives for not even a pretence of reason

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Why is there more than one gasoline brand? It's all gasoline. Why do we need to pay for branding and marketing and profits? Why not just have Amerigas: a public service of the united states government.

    • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      gas is already a public service of the US gov, how else would you describe the Iraq war?

    • MerryChristmas [any]
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      2 years ago

      Does the marketing even do any good? I mean, I know it must and I'm sure there are some people out there who only get gas at BP or whatever, but I have never once considered which gas station to use based on anything but proximity.

  • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    counterpoint: venezuelan socialist takeover kellogg's added a variety of cereal.

    There's no reason we can't have wide selection in consumer goods, but hopefully for things like toothpaste we'd do away with dubious marketing claims.

  • sgtlion [any]
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    2 years ago

    And all the brands are probably owned by a total of two or three companies.

  • blairbnb [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I literally just buy the cheapest one every time and its fine. Just a black and white box saying TOOTHPASTE would be completely fine.