I hate this country :lenin-rage: :rage-cry: :NOOOOO:

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    A massive social network with no yanks? Oh boy!

  • Sator_is_Tense [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    itt: boomer-brains hating on the most predominantly zoomer social media app out of ignorance and sheer spite :very-smart:

    • bidenicecream
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      2 years ago

      Not gonna lie, it really is fucking pathetic how many aging millenials on this site are stuck in the past. Like people have moved on from 90s Simpsons and early 2000s era ebaumsworld comedy, or whatever the fuck. We get it, you thought the dark knight was "sick" when it came out. Yeah you like the "old Kanye" and that "classic 50 cent and Eminem rap." Yeah we get it, Sega Genesis or N64 was the "bEsT cOnSoLe EVER L33t!!!" Yes we know that "FINAL FANTASY 7 IS THE BEST GAME OF ALL TIME!!!" Oh and don't forget: "I remember when it was called 'The' Facebook you dumb zoomers!"

      If it weren't for the leftist ideas they were exposed to, I 100% believe they would become reactionary chuds. In fact I suspect there is a slight reactionary element in them because they just can't get with the times. They'll push back and say "hurr durr why should I care about shitty zoomer shit" even though that's literally exactly what their parents said to the stuff they cared about. That being said there are some that realize that they are getting out of touch and are going out of their way to let others claim their own future.

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Not gonna lie, it really is fucking pathetic how many aging millenials on this site are stuck in the past. Like people have moved on from 90s Simpsons and early 2000s era ebaumsworld comedy, or whatever the fuck

        bad take people shouldn't be shamed for prefering the pop culture that they watched as a kid. It's harmless and could not matter less

        also it'll happen to you

        • bidenicecream
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          2 years ago

          also it’ll happen to you

          Joke's on you. I am a millennial. It's my own generation that I see falling for this nostalgia bullshit. I made a post about a while back: https://hexbear.net/post/247679. TL;DR nostalgia brain is often the first step into reactionary/fascist tendencies from what I've observed (e.g. "things were better back in my day sonny boy!")

          • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Yeah I saw that post and disagreed with it then. For young people to have their cultural space we need to not inject ourselves into the content made for and by them.

            I am less familiar with the cartoons and movies aimed at young people because I have less free time available to watch cartoons and movies now and that's OK not everything needs to be for you. I'm more familiar with the music I grew up with than whatever now occupies the cultural niche the Jonas brothers used to fill and that's fine because that's just not music made for me as the target audience

            • GoebbelsDeezNuts [any]
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              2 years ago

              Top comment by HoChiMaxhhe still relevant

              This is the second meta-post today about something that is like barely a thing here

              • bidenicecream
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                2 years ago

                I mean not to knock on HoChiMax, but he was denying that young men needing dating advice was a thing, until he realized he was wrong and made a post about how he is a well-adjusted, fit guy with a healthy partnership, family, and friend circle (I can't search far enough back for his post cuz of the 1 month limit on this site). So if he says something is "barely a thing" then I tend not to agree with him.

        • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          I don't think it's the "enjoying things from when you were young" part that's the problem, it's the "and that's why everything that the next generations like suck" part.

          • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Yeah that is out of order. Part of getting older sensibly is realising that music for teenagers, is no longer for you and that star wars and superhero media being childrens movies if you as an adult see them and don't like them it's not a big deal.

            Grown adults complaining about not liking the latest star wars films is like complaining that now your 30 you don't find peppa pig as entertaining as you did when you were 3

      • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        I will be on TikTok the moment people start posting 50+ minute long reviews and video essays about 20 year old video games there

          • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            He'll never be part of the Goth Gamer Nation :farquaad-point:

            In all seriousness, it's just the perfect kind of fluff to put on when you've run out of pods :chefs-kiss:

          • Owl [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            It'd be neat if they had anything substantive to say about the games, but video game essays are mostly breathless hagiographies about how the game is good and you have good taste for liking it.

            • Grandpa_garbagio [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Idk it can be nice to have a piece of work you enjoy dissected in a positive light. I do the same shit with my friends when we find a book we all enjoy, or movie, why not games? In depth analysis doesn't have to be critique

            • StellarTabi [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              i like them because angry ranty man and also it's sometimes better to watch a summary of a game getting played for 10-20 minutes than to be 4 hours into a game and still trying to figure out what mushrooms do

      • buh [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        the best console ever was PS2 :very-smart:

      • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I mean I don't like TikTok but I am against banning it

        • bidenicecream
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          2 years ago

          I actually think things overall are getting shittier, but I also notice a tendency of people to not deal with the present and retreat into the comfort of their childhoods. That's mainly what I'm against. People who don't wanna deal with reality and retreat into nostalgia.

      • Dolores [love/loves]
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        2 years ago

        If it weren’t for the leftist ideas they were exposed to I 100% believe they would become reactionary chuds

        if it weren't for the thing that separates leftists from chuds, the leftists would be chuds! :thinking-about-it:

        • bidenicecream
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          2 years ago

          Yeah, insofar as nostalgia and those prone to a rose-tinted view of the past can lead to reactionary tendencies. See this post: https://hexbear.net/post/247679

          • Dolores [love/loves]
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            2 years ago

            :think-mark: if you weren't nostalgic and didn't read leftist theory you still wouldn't be leftist lol.

            but you're mistaken to think nostalgia is blanket reactionary. some things were better in the past. my auntie waxing nostalgic about public transit infrastructure we don't have anymore isn't reactionary.

            • bidenicecream
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              2 years ago

              some things were better in the past. my auntie waxing nostalgic about public transit infrastructure we don’t have anymore isn’t reactionary.

              Yeah I mean we all pine for the glory days of the USSR, but that's not the stuff I'm talking about.

      • StellarTabi [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Not gonna lie, it really is fucking pathetic how many aging millenials on this site are stuck in the past.

        just because they don't like le doomless dance video scroll app? I'm not sure this is really reacting to something happening on this website.

        • bidenicecream
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          2 years ago

          I’m not sure this is really reacting to something happening on this website.

          It is, I made a post about it before: https://hexbear.net/post/247679

          • StellarTabi [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            that's just a second post claiming "bro trust me it's totally happening" but is mostly contentless. it's hard to extract a coherent and principled message beyond "why old people not watch children's cartoons like me".

            • bidenicecream
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              2 years ago

              I mean I could go through every comment and thread on this site and compile the times that references that only millenials know are mentioned and compare it to references that other gens would know. And my hunch is that there would definitely be a greater percentage of millennial references. You saying that "it's not a thing" is also a "trust me it's NOT happening thing" so I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish.

                • bidenicecream
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                  2 years ago

                  Edit: LMAO ageist loser with absolutely no point tucks tail and “disengages”

                  :cringe: bad form. You have no idea how old I am and are mocking my attempt to disengage. Whatevever I guess, I'm done with this.

                • bidenicecream
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                  2 years ago

                  mostly not a problem.

                  That's just you dismissing a legitimate view. I think it's time to disengage.

        • bidenicecream
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          2 years ago

          Actually I've never had or used tiktok, but I'm not gonna shit on zoomers for enjoying it, unlike a lot of people on this site.

      • stinky [any]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        We love our boomer comrades.

      • stinky [any]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        Generations are socially constructed but are a useful shorthand to talk about economic and social changes that take place over a longer period of time. The zoomer experience of amerika is different from the millennial one (and the transition is the cuspers). Generations Wars are liberal bs but it’s a fact that tiktok is more zoomer and Facebook is more Gen X and Boomer.

        • bidenicecream
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          2 years ago

          Generations only aren't real when it's something he doesn't care about. If it is something he cares about, then all of a sudden they'll become "real"

    • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I think all social media is bad and should be banned, from boomer to zoomer

      That said, I do think it’s bullshit for the US to focus on a Chinese company when there’s so many shitty domestic ones they have direct jurisdiction over. They are just bullying TikTok US into selling at a loss, it’s just blatant theft. All the concern trolling over Chinese spying is laughable when they have the FBI department at Facebook, and they can actually execute and arrest you

    • Shoegazer [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Zoomers these days don’t understand the excitement of FarmVille

      • StellarTabi [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        yeah they do, 90% of mobile games are farmville clones, often with added combat mini games and random aesthetics like zombies or mafia.

    • W_Hexa_W
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      1 year ago

      deleted by creator

  • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Honestly the US banning tiktok would probably do more to radicalise young people than any content on tiktok ever could

  • Shoegazer [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    No they’re not lol.

    But, it would be very funny if they somehow 5D maneuver this.

    Sell the app to the American for like $3 billion, but sneakily include a clause that says China gets to keep all accounts and algorithms.

    The Americans get a skeleton app that has to be rebuilt from the ground up, and by the time they realize that China releases another app called TokTik with the the original accounts and algorithms reinstated

    • stinky [any]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      I hope they don’t. I love my fyp. It’s taken a long time to curate and I don’t wanna spend a week downloading all my saved vids.

      • Yeat [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        yeah on one hand it can be slightly addictive for me and is probably destroying my dopamine receptors but on the other hand my fyp is perfect and i have way too many semi-important saved videos

  • thelastaxolotl [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    The few clips i watched about the hearing has shown me that its necesary to have a ban on people over 70 years old from holding goberment jobs

    also one of the dinosaurs was constantly calling the ceo a cpc agent like he didnt said he was from Singapur at the start

    • stinky [any]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Circuses for me (Facebook) but not for thee (tiktok).

  • AutoVomBizMarkee [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    You see, china’s great firewall is bad, but the Anglo great firewall is gonna be great folks.

    • stinky [any]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      I was reading some Marx earlier and he literally pointed this out about some amerikan economist back in his day who tried to claim protectionism was cool. It was in the collected works somewhere.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    We should be flooding tiktok with "how to bypass the tiktok ban" videos.

    This is an opportunity to teach the zoomer generation some techy shit that sits in the same realm of pirate behaviour. The kids that learn how to bypass the ban will also be the people that become the next generation of torrent supporters and pirates.

    • stinky [any]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Yeah, definitely. But even then at most it’ll be a few million people using vpns and whatnot. The vast majority (~200 million) will not and that will be a major loss.

    • stinky [any]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Extremely well put. It’s very saddening seeing millennials do the same thing that they complained about.

  • space_comrade [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    That congressional hearing was absolutely fucking pathetic.

    And these people have the audacity to mock DPRK politics lmao.

    • stinky [any]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Do the TikToks use the home internet or wifi?

      Uh, yes.

      ITS STEALING OUR DAYTA.

  • Yeat [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    nobody has mentioned this so i will: getting rid of tik tok would be absolutely horrible for the music industry. tiktok in a way has allowed people to blow their music up more organically without the help of a label and without a label deciding who gets to have their music blow up (which has been happening in the past decade because of the internet in general but tiktok has made this 100x more efficient and easy)

    i listen to a lot of underground soundcloud rap and huperpop and that whole scene would probably still be stuck at >1k followers everywhere else without tik tok

    • stinky [any]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      A lot of (internet) boomers take issue with the type of music that gets boosted via tiktok. It’s sad to see. I thought the millennials were our friends :bawllin-sad:

    • AutoVomBizMarkee [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Great point, TikTok has been so good for making interesting or missed music blow up. Also annoying stuff but whatever that can be fun.

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Pretty obvious they're banning it because it has leftist content and it's not controlled by google, amazon, facebook, twitter etc.

    • stinky [any]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      The lines can be divided between people who actually use tiktok (cool, good) and people who don’t (misguided, fed constant propaganda about how bad it is)

      • StellarTabi [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        fed constant propaganda about how bad it is

        oh yeah like how you can't fast forward some videos?

        If you don’t see the progress bar at the bottom of the screen, you cannot fast-forward the video. This might be because the creator has changed their video permissions settings.

        :so-true: I can't wait for youtube to copy more shitty UI features from le cool zoomer app