:amerikkka-clap: excited to see even more anti-trans hate. media says the shooter had he/him pronouns in bio

  • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Man doing the classic teen boy crime has gotta be Hella gender affirming

  • JamesConeZone [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I know something about the presbyterian church of America (PCA) that this school belongs to. They are a sectarian group, broke away from the PCUS (now PCUSA) in the early 1900s based on "liberal shift" because of modernism "invading" the church. The PCA continued being reactionary. They don't allow women to be ministers and remain staunchly homophobic and anti-trans, more aggressively so in recent years. They are more educated and "polite" than maga Southern Baptists pigs, so they don't get the attention that other pigs get. So that's some context here. I don't know anything about the school or Nashville or anything, but that's the context around the PCA.

    • Assian_Candor [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Article said shooter was a former student

      Poor kids, this shit makes me especially sick as a father when it’s young kids. God damn america

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        28 years old though and the school only serves up to grade 8 according to their website. That would mean they were a student there 14 years ago.

        • mar_k [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Apparently he was originally planning on shooting somewhere else, but changed his mind because of the level of security

    • M68040 [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Honestly, I could see a place like that's evangelical bullshit fucking someone up that hard.

  • hollowmines [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    When you're at more than one mass shooting a day, you're bound to get a not-a-cis-man person every once in a while

    • kristina [she/her]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      They claim he wrote a manifesto. Low-key curious what a trans man has to add to the school shooter screed meta

      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Wait isn't this the second trans male to shoot up a place? I could be wrong but wasn't there that other one that was revealed to be trans or non-binary? I forget which one it was.

        • Azarova [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          One claimed to be non-binary after they did a shooting, so I'm inclined to believe they were just trying to make things even worse for us. Especially so, considering they were a generic reactionary/nazi online as Naal pointed out.

        • Naal [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I think the CO Springs nightclub? although that one is still up in the air as to whether they're trolling or not because they were very anti-LGBTQIA+ online

          • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            That one was definitely trolling but there was another. It was a teenager I think. Ugh this is going to bother me tonight lol

            • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]
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              2 years ago

              I believe you're thinking of the Uvalde, TX shooter. 4chan went apeshit trying to push the enby narrative, but I don't recall whether it got any traction.

              • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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                2 years ago

                Wasn't that one just another radicalized dude form the internet? Also from what I heard possibly in the same message board as a former Texas trooper or something similar?

            • fart [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              it was one of the Colorado STEM school shooters

                • kristina [she/her]
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                  2 years ago

                  wild. kids really have some malformed brains. couldnt see too far into the future on that one. wont be having a happy life transitioning in prison :\

                  i cant help but feel if they had been connected to the community rather than isolated things would have turn out way differently

                  though honestly the fact that both shooters were trans men leads even more credence to trans identities being real and tangible in a morbid way

        • M68040 [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          The Colorado Springs Nightclub shooter claimed they were after the fact, but this is a "obviously talking out their ass" case

    • Solara [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah didn't realize they were all dead naming and misgendering. I thought they were a trans woman

  • Changeling [it/its]
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    2 years ago

    Someone brought up Richard Spencer getting punched to me the other day. That happened in 2017. Just in case you were wondering what the half life on fascist talking points is.

    We’ll be hearing about this for a decade

    • spectre [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Isn't "welfare queens" (yuck) coming up on 50 years old now?

    • HamManBad [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The difference is, Richard Spencer getting punched was cool and good. Shooting 9 year olds is abso-fuckin-lutely not

      • Changeling [it/its]
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        2 years ago

        Doesn’t matter. Point is the fascist can use both to exaggerate the violence being done against them and rally popular support.

    • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      The last paragraph of the article:

      As of Monday, the Covenant School shooting was the 129th mass shooting in the U.S. this year, with 37 having been committed this month, according to the Gun Violence Archive. Gun violence is the leading cause of death for U.S. children.

      Fuck me, comrade.

      • stinky [any]
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        2 years ago

        How the fuck? What is considered a mass shooting?

        • Gimbrone [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          Any shooting with 4 or more victims. It's being used as a cudgel by the right now, because these big ones that make the news are always white men, but the smaller ones never get reported beyond short local coverage.

          • HamManBad [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            To be fair, those shootings weren't at an elementary school. This is why you don't do adventurism folks

  • Goblinmancer [any]
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    2 years ago

    Conservatives when hundreds of cis men shoots people : i sleep

    Conservatives when a trans men shoots people: trans people are evil.

    Mfers never changed from post 9/11 days where all brown people are viewed with suspicion.

  • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Yeah saw this pop up on my feed and not looking forward to how much mileage this will get in conservative circles. Then again most people forgot about the dude that firebombed a migrant detention center during the Trump era and who identified as an anarchist.

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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    2 years ago

    i fuckin.... okay yea blah blah blah normal paeans to respectability politics and obviously he shouldn't have murdered innocents you know the drill but like

    the fucking GALL to be like "we don't have a motive, but obviously he probably did this because of his clinical transgenderism" got me thinking that if someone [redacted] the Newsweek offices i wouldn't be nearly as horrified

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Sigh...it's going to be a lot of "fun" watching TERFs chime in and assume it's a Trans Woman and run off with their rhetorical hammer, or if they've developed basic reading comprehension, use it to claim that even a drop of masculinity is inherently evil and "young girls" are being "brainwashed" into being school shooters.

    :deeper-sadness:

    EDIT:

    As of Monday, the Covenant School shooting was the 129th mass shooting in the U.S. this year, with 37 having been committed this month

    The fuck?! You know how many Mass Shootings we've had in the entirety of last year? 0. If we were at the USA rate we'd have had 50 last year.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I was initially thinking that this was a revenge shooting because of the bs the police have put about their little theory because of the social profiles being trans related but it doesn't add up. The shooter is 28 years old and the school only goes up to grade 8? That means the shooter attended this school 14 years ago.

    I don't really believe that this was a revenge shooting for trans related issues 14 years after the fact.

    • Parzivus [any]
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      2 years ago

      I saw someone else say that this was the most MKULTRA shooting in a while and I'm starting to believe it

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        It's a bit fucking weird and messy. Seeing reports that he was also extremely religious? I don't know what to make of that one. Need to see this manifesto and hear from family and other people that actually knew them.

        • mar_k [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah are we even 100% sure he was trans? They said he had “he/him” on his linkedin profile, is that literally their only source for him being trans?

          Edit: they even said the person had she/her on other social media

          • goatmeal [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            This is the picture the NYPost is running with

            https://nypost.com/2023/03/27/nashville-school-shooter-audrey-hale-identified-as-transgender-and-had-detailed-manifesto-to-attack-christian-academy/

            • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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              2 years ago

              we should keep assuming that the attack was left wing in nature

              That's your own conjecture and I'd ask you to follow your own advice. Not all trans people are leftist and not every act of violence carried out by someone with left-leaning politics is politically motivated, nor is there evidence that it had anything to do with him being trans.

              I don't think it's really that conspiratorial to ask questions and verify details about the case, especially when there have been false reports of shooters being trans in the past. I do think it's reasonable to accept that he was trans but the LinkedIn profile isn't all that definitive imo.

            • mar_k [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              :PIGPOOPBALLS:

              Anyways the police said they‘re not entirely sure of his motivation after reading the manifesto, if it said anything again religion and transphobia I'm sure they'd immediately gloat on that. So there was probably no motivation besides him being insane

            • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              we should keep assuming that the attack was left wing in nature

              Left wing is when trans, lmao dumb fucking take

            • Diablosmacc [any]
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              2 years ago

              What the fuck is left wing about shooting up kids are you fucking stupid

  • darkcalling [comrade/them, she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Looks like on /r/conspiracy they're circling this back around to Jane Fonda funnily enough. Her statement about murder being needed to secure abortion rights and the school being a private Christian one. She really has been living the Maoist life, rent free in reactionary boomers' brains for half a century now.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      Gotta wonder how many of the "Protect the Children!" folks are going to look at a chronically abusive bigot factory, then look at the poor bastard pushed so far off the rails that they decided to light it up, and decide the problem is an 85-year-old ex-celebrity.

  • RikerDaxism [it/its]
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    2 years ago

    This is terrible and I'm also really afraid of retributive violence directed at trans people