I'm just middle aged and lost all energy for unproductive discussions. The second another poster posts something genuinely hostile, like "touch grass" kinda shit, I'm just done talking. Also if we're six comments in and the other guy won't even admit to being wrong to the thing he said on comment one, despite me doing twenty minutes of research to prove conclusively that he's wrong, I don't want to waste another second of my life on him.

I gotta have 10% of the "disengage" comments on this site.

  • Philosoraptor [he/him, comrade/them]
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    5 hours ago

    You're not getting paid for this. You're not even a volunteer. You're doing this (presumably) for recreational purposes--because it makes you feel good. You don't owe anyone anything. Disengage when you're not getting what you want out of it.

    • bumpusoot [any]
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      3 hours ago

      Without naming names, I've got in arguments with some users who will just keep coming back and posting more replies after you stop responding. Sometimes for days, in one case, weeks.

      I also think there's some value in actively signalling that the conversation was actually really sucky and you hated it. Helps steer people in nicer directions, I'd argue.

  • macerated_baby_presidents [he/him]
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    11 hours ago

    reminding everyone that the disengage rule was made before blocking worked. Be generous with your comm and user blocks, life is short.

    • bumpusoot [any]
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      3 hours ago

      I wish blocking worked better, you can still see when blocked users have replied. And blocked users can still see and comment on your posts all the same, doesn't feel nice.

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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    10 hours ago

    Think of it like real life. You're at party having a discussion with somebody that turns into an argument. If the person you're talking to is an asshole - there's no point in talking so why keep talking? Just walk away.

  • ReadFanon [any, any]
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    11 hours ago

    Life is short. I can't imagine you being on your deathbed lamenting the fact that you routinely refused to go 12+ comments deep with someone who was being obstinate and arguing like its bloodsport.

    You have a right to reclaim your peace.

  • nothx [he/him]
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    10 hours ago

    I don't think there is ever a wrong time to disengage from a situation. You don't owe anybody the time and mental energy it takes to continue the discussion at that point. Especially on the internet, where there shouldn't be an expectation that the other party is ever coming back to the discussion, just close the tab and move on.

  • Philosophosphorous [comrade/them, he/him]
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    10 hours ago

    broke: disengage

    woke: just blocking them

    bespoke: blocking them after writing your 10 paragraph reply, getting fully around the 'disengage = getting the last word in spell' issue and never having to think about the other user again

  • 2812481591 [any, it/its]
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    13 hours ago

    Disengage is for if people are following you between threads and comments, not a "Get the last word in" spell.

    and yes, If someone makes one reply that's a stupid misinterpretation of what I said, blocked forever.

  • Diuretic_Materialism [he/him]
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    14 hours ago

    Hot take, I think the "disengage" rule is good but I don't like the way we do it.

    Saying "disengage" sounds like your commanding someone to disengage, which comes off as a final "fuck you!" It's basically a mod enforced way to have the last word. If we instead said "I'm disengaging" or "i want to cease this convo", idk something that had more to a tinge of humility to it I think it could come off better.

    • MemesAreTheory [he/him, any]
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      11 hours ago

      You know I tried something like that recently, but the people who need a disengage aren't the ones to take a hint. It's a command because the people who's hobby that day is to argue with you aren't going to respect polite boundaries.

      • Diuretic_Materialism [he/him]
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        11 hours ago

        Okay but I've seen as many examples of people using it as a "have the last word spell" than as a way to tell someone who's legit been pestering you to fuck off.

        I'm pretty sure spamming someone with replies after they've asked you to stop is against the rules anyway so you could just report them.

    • ButtBidet [he/him]
      hexagon
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      14 hours ago

      if we instead said "I'm disengaging" or "i want to cease this convo", idk something that had more to a tinge of humility to it I think it could come off better.

      Ya I agree, this sounds way better.

    • Blockocheese [any]
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      14 hours ago

      There's also the issue where someone will write a multi paragraph response then add disengage at the end to ger the last word in

      There was a post a while ago where mods were saying not to do that but it isn't enforced

      • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]
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        13 hours ago

        Its absolutely enforced when we see it happen. Report any instance of the disengage rule being used improperly like that. We don't see everything and rely heavily on user reports to point out CoC violations

      • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]
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        12 hours ago

        I've got someone banned for not respecting proper disengage etiquette, so it's definitely enforced when reported.

      • REgon [they/them]
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        12 hours ago

        There's also the issue where someone will write a multi paragraph response then add disengage at the end to ger the last word in

        That hasn't been an issue for over a year. Doing that will - or at least was - grounds for a banning. I know because I'm the one that asked for the rule to be clarified so it didn't work like that.
        There was some drama with some user who kept doing it, which was the motivation for the rule change/clarification.

      • Diuretic_Materialism [he/him]
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        13 hours ago

        Was gonna say I'm pretty sure that's against the rules and you don't have to respect that "disengage" if it's made like that.

    • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]
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      11 hours ago

      Can you explain the disengage rule? I think this is the first I'm hearing about it and that's kind of weird/concerning because I feel like I should know the rules of this place.

      • bumpusoot [any]
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        3 hours ago

        If you want a conversation to stop, especially with a user who's constantly replying or following you. You can respond with "Disengage.", and the user is obliged to stop posting at you about whatever it is. The post has to be a simple 'disengage', rather than trying to get the last word in with "you stink and here's five reasons why also disengage".

    • Taster_Of_Treats [none/use name]
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      11 hours ago

      Furthermore, a comment that only says "disengage" is not having the final word because it isn't part of the argument.

  • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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    10 hours ago

    Nope. Never too early, if you know you're dealing with some peckerwood smuggard what won't be turfed out, it's easier to just shut their shit down from the jump. "No, I'm not interested in discoursing with you, go away."