It was ages ago we hit 10000 members. We should be 20000 strong arr en.
How are people gonna find it? We're pretty insulated. There was the watermarking of memes for a while. Frankly, we're pariahs. Chapo the podcast was already divisive among demsocs and libs, and the subreddit exaggerated those divisions to the point it gained a notorious reputation as a place for trans tankie psychos. And we're the die hard soldiers in the jungle fighting years after the ban. That's not exactly an easily marketable brand.
Shout out to my trans tankies psychos :CommiePOGGERS:
And hi to my well-adjusted ones too I guess 😒🖐️
a place for trans tankie psychos
good
Uncle Ho and the red army had to fight for decade(s) to win. They won non the less.
People stopped advertising on reddit, at least not nearly as much as summer
For example back in the day chapo was so active that the posts would get on rising and top/hour so a whole bunch of easily radicalized libs (like me) could get trapped in. Now there is no outlet to the general lib population
Edit: to be clear i dont really know what the solution is here, I think it just goes back to trying to advertise on other bigger sites. Maybe try and get some screencaps on whitepeopletwitter or aboringdystopia, places that are generally somewhat receptive to left-lib ideasIt also feels like the reddit leftist population is more stratified after the chapo sub went down. Since they specifically forbid any subreddit made for the same purpose, so the only subs that survived had different focuses. So now we have genzedong, dankleft, breadtube, etc, and they all sort of hate each other.
Basically. Maybe some people will disagree, but to me it felt like the old sub had some actual semblance of left unity, and was quickly becoming some kind of, I don't know, cultural force on reddit. And I totally believe that bannening was 100% about getting rid of r/chapotraphouse and had nothing to do with the alt-right subs that got banned at the same time.
The subreddit became so influential on the online left they even named a podcast after it!
And I totally believe that bannening was 100% about getting rid of r/chapotraphouse and had nothing to do with the alt-right subs that got banned at the same time.
Remember, T_D had been a ghost town for months when reddit finally took out the trash. IIRC a bunch of their mods had been removed by admins and they had a long window where they could direct users to their off-reddit site via a sticky on T_D's corpse.
The rest of the alt-right subs taken down in the same ban were pretty small.
Using the bigger sites is a huge pain. Can't stand them.
We had a limited pool of people that liked r/cth that cared enough to check if there was a place to go after the ban and join this site shortly after it was created. A rough aproximation of the size of that pool is how many people cared enough to join the discord.The discord has about 10k people if im not mistaken so it was natural that about that many people would join the site quickly and the number of users would stagnate after reaching 10k
It's funny people listing ideological reasons why people don't want to come here but I think you hit the right, material, reason. We're simply not the large contingent we think we are. Whatever numbers that were subbed on reddit clearly wasn't accurate or wasn't committed enough to pursue posting outside of reddit. People are trying to tie their personal grievances (usually with the mods) to why the site isn't living up to their standard of success. Not saying that's what OP is doing by asking the question, just what some commenters are doing.
Go to leftist subs and make really stupid liberal complaints about chapo.chat.
Growth doesn't happen without labour. You actually need to be doing something to create growth, everyone on Reddit has this absurd idea that communities just grow all by themselves because that's how reddit is setup -- to feed population from the site into its various communities.
Reddit's admin team actually has to put in work to grow it and to continue to grow it through outside sources.
Growth doesn't come without labour. I am practically the only person actually doing any advertising. Everyone talks the talk about wanting to see the site grow but you actually need to put 5-10 minutes of effort in once a day somewhere else to create that. If a hundred of you did this once a day we'd be fucking steaming ahead, right now I'm responsible for anywhere between 10 and 30 new accounts per day, up to 50ish on a good one.
Go and actually do something to spread the site. Literally nothing happens unless you put the site in other places and hardly anyone is actually doing that.
Seriously just take 10 minutes out of your day once a day to plug the place somewhere. Do it every single day. Make it a routine.
Growth doesn’t come without labour. I am practically the only person actually doing any advertising.
This is why we're not growing, but not for the reasons you think.
Do you want to expand on that or just sit in the peanut gallery claiming to have the answers while not being forthcoming with them?
In short, posting here can seem a lot like work. There's an expectation of work, or needing to read the right theory or perform the proper amount of self-crit and just a high level of needing to justify one's continued presence on the website to other users.
The audience for such things is a lot smaller than low-effort nonsense. That's fine; higher demand activities have necessarily smaller audiences.
That's a fair criticism for the retention side. I don't disagree that retention can be improved and that some element of user-fatigue due to over-expectations of their leftist credentials and self-improvement might be playing a role in that.
What you must understand however is that growth on a site like this is actually made up of 3 parts:
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Acquisition - This is the part where we get users to come here from somewhere else, but before they have made an account.
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Conversion - This is the part where the user is convinced to actually make an account.
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Retention - This is the part where the user is convinced to continue using the site longer than 1 or 2 days after making their account.
These 3 parts come together to form the whole. I don't disagree with you that retention issues could be improved, but in terms of "growth" as it were my point was really about the Acquisition part. Chapo has almost no Acquisition going on.
Retention and Acquisition are coupled. Each person retained is a potential evangelist, and each person driven off is a potential gainsayer.
A bunch of goofballs from the original subreddit didn't mesh well here, for better or ill, and now they're easily found typical diaspora haunts, and when a potential proponent of this site talks it up, it gets criticized.
I've been monitoring redditsearch.io results for this website since it got launched, and typically, any positive mention is quickly met with a criticism, justified or not.
I agree that they're coupled but only in so much as for every 1000 users you might find 1 or 2 that perform more Acquisition regularly. Where do you see the criticisms? I might need to go hunting and collating that information into something useable and useful to look at and suggest changes. In every instance where I have done advertising for the site I've not seen it a single time other than chuds doing their whole "lol chapotards" shtick. Getting site critique when mentioning the site is not really my experience. Maybe once or twice in Discord but those people were literally repeating wrecker stuff and clearly had come into contact with wreckers spreading bs.
That's our public image? Is 90% of it wrecker shit? Sure; but a new potential user doesn't know that.
Take for example Raddle. Now I don't know anything about Raddle. But I've never been tempted to check it out because anytime it gets mentioned it devolves into two people yelling at each other. That might not be fair to the hard-working Raddle team, but what can you do.
Hmm. This seems grossly incomplete. It doesn't include anything I've posted, even when I adjust the search for more specific words I use when advertising it doesn't include most of my posts... Strange. This version lets you search specific authors btw: https://camas.github.io/reddit-search/
The version you linked used to let you search by author but removed the functionality at reddit's request.
I don't know what could be going on; the most recent results on both of them seem to match up to me. I'm familiar with both of them and to my knowledge they pull from the same database.
Oh yeah they'll definitely match up, they both use pushshift, it's the same database. What I'm getting at is that it's incomplete.
Do you see these posts in there? I don't. Even when I explicitly change it to "chacha". Some content just appears to be not getting picked up at all.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/comments/lw4mtt/whats_funny_is_literally_the_only_people_ive_seen/gphgovh/
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/comments/lva84r/weird_problem/gpcxtwi/
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/comments/luer1l/checkmate/gp8cbpf/
Somethings funky with the "chacha" results in general; a bunch of mentions on some days, but with large gaps of no mentions over several days. . Not sure if the term is so generic that there's just too many of them to index all of them or what.
Interesting. It should show up for the full URL too. It seems just a little bit scuffed. It's interesting that it's missing some of these comments because they're extremely high-value ones stickied to major threads that are reaching /r/all.
These threads are mainly responsible for all the libs here lately. You're welcome. :che-smile:
I wouldn't read too much into it, especially if explicit chapo.chat mentions seem to be coming through just fine. Suvivorship bias being what it is though, you might want to start including the full name as a test when you post adverts.
I wouldn't do adverts at all though, but that's just me.
The adverts will continue until the libs learn. Either way they've been extremely useful in signalling to the socialist community on reddit that TRCM is a space for them. The discussions there shunted leftward by a huge margin in just a couple of weeks of ideological brute force, stickying propaganda and banning the shit out of everyone that complains has been highly effective with only a very marginal reduction in activity and no effect whatsoever on the position the subreddit reaches on /r/all.
If I ever manage to get into a sub with 500k+ or even any of the subs with 1m+ subscribers they will become mass radicalisation weapons.
No I mean I'm huge lib the issue isn't with bringing libs here, the issue is that concerted advertising (as opposed to organic word of mouth) implies that people are taking this site seriously, which makes it undesirable.
I recall having seen Raddle adverts back in the day.
I don't think that's an issue among the kind of soft left trcm has. They're bernie and aoc people at best not the hardened 90s kids with nihilist attitudes that immediately drop anything whenever other people think they're popular or being taken seriously. I agree with that attitude to harder leftist spaces though.
As always, my solution is the same; acknowledge the Chinese finger trap nature of the problem, open a few pints, and just try to have fun.
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What do you do to plug this place? DM people on leftist reddit subs? Drop links to here? Watermarked memes?
Previously I took things from here I knew were good, slapped watermarks on them and posted them on reddit. 5 minutes of effort and half of them would blow up.
These days I post stickied comments to /r/therightcantmeme threads that are hitting /r/all.
At any other opportunity I mention the place and proselytize shamelessly about how good it is and how important it is to build leftist-owned media independent of liberal ownership.
The point isn't really what you do though. It's that you do something. It doesn't matter whether it reaches 1 person or 1000 persons. What matters is the consistency in doing it. It all adds up over time and it all adds to the normalisation of the site as a force to pay attention to.
Our marketing department is only slightly larger than our marketing budget, and that’s because some users post watermarked stuff on Reddit once in a blue moon.
r/PeterDaou is about the only place you'll find links to Chapo.chat.
Have the false allegations against Beatnik affected chapo.chat's standing with those friendly leftist subreddits in any way?
Hoping the only people for whom it has are the ones who already hated us.
I've not seen it mentioned literally anywhere except on here. It was such a short event and completely fell flat on its face. Nobody cares.
I saw it in the TrueAnon sub but nobody seemed to really give a shit, yeah
/r/therightcantmeme stickies chapo ad comments to the top thread every single day.
The first few months felt like it had a more open exchange of ideas as an alternative to reddit. Now it just feels like a mirror to r/genzedong, r/ShitLiberalsSay, and r/offmychest with a lot more navel-gazing and infighting.
Still enjoy this place, I'm just on it a lot less.
Exactly, the mods are in here complaining that we're not doing the 'labor' of advertising the site. Maybe it's because the site isn't very good so why would people want to share it.
I say poor marketing. How will citations needed fans know to find us when we named chapo chat? Who even is chapo I've certainly never chatted with them. Smh fix this injustice mods, being order and sense to this site.
Drama and cliqueishness. Self indulgent week long struggle sessions instead of this is the way it from now on. k thnx byebye
