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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to this if you can, thank you.

Links

Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ukraine/@49.1162725,31.7993839,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d1d9c154700e8f:0x1068488f64010!8m2!3d48.379433!4d31.1655799?hl=en

Leftist discussion threads:

https://hexbear.net/post/177324

https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/

https://lemmygrad.ml/

Twitter military updaters:

https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary

https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet

https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike

https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael

https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518

Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413

Better war/propaganda analysis:

https://www.understandingwar.org

https://www.moonofalabama.org/

News updates:

https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html

Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html

YT/Video in Ukraine:

https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/videos

https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTe

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  • fawx [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    So am I alone on this site in thinking that Ukraine probably will "win" this war? Not to say Ukraine won't be devastated, but I think it's gonna end with Russia not holding Ukraine (outside of maybe parts of Donbas). Akin to Vietnam v America.

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        RT has reported that Russia would settle for a peace that involved recognition of the Donbass republics, Crimea and legal guarantees of Ukrainian neutrality. I don't think they're going to take more Ukrainian territory.

        Zelensky's party on the other hand has proposed an arrangement where Russia, the US and Turkey signs a treaty to safeguard Ukraine and has more or less given up on NATO membership.

          • SoyViking [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            I think that scenario is highly unlikely. The Russian story has always been that they're just there to protect the Donbass, not to occupy the entirety of the Ukraine. I know big states are full of shit but even propaganda has to have some internal consistency in order to work. On the more practical side of things, Russia doesn't want to fight an extremely well-supplied insurgency and will be happy to limit the scope of their more permanent presence.

          • SoyViking [he/him]
            ·
            3 years ago

            Russia would be the third party in the room, so no missile bases for the yanks in the Ukraine.

        • SoyViking [he/him]
          ·
          3 years ago

          But he's the new Hitler! He has to be, Hitler is the baddest baddie I know and Putin must be just as bad.

          • leredditor99 [he/him,none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            He seems "craazzyyyy" because this is the most publicized war by far, but the last 8+ years leading up to it have gotten almost no coverage so it appears as if Putin just woke up one day and went insane.

          • Kevin_Sorbet [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            Wait so when libs realize Putin isn’t all the propaganda made him out to be they’ll also think maybe hitler isn’t all he was made out to be :yea:

            • SoyViking [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              :geordi-no: Western propaganda is bullshit

              :geordi-yes: Ackshually Hitler was not as bad as they say

              • buh [she/her]
                ·
                3 years ago

                hitler kept the trains running on time! :so-true:

                but who was in those trains, and where were they going? 🤔

          • CTHlurker [he/him]
            ·
            3 years ago

            Did you also see that lady on danish TV who was supposedly an expert on geopolitics, who said in complete seriousness, that the Z-symbol on the russian equipment meant that they were destined for Westward expansion? As in, within a few weeks he will take Poland and Germany?

        • anoncpc [comrade/them]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Only the propagandists. The realist, like the retired military said that Putin probably neutralize Ukraine west and take east. That’s all

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        This is definitely the goal, it's not too unreasonable either (in terms of imperial goals). I also think that a demilitarization and gutting of the Ukrainian military will be on the table. Specifically some sort of tribunal for the crimes committed by Azov and the fascists in Donbass over the past decade.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      I don't think Russia's strategic goal is to "Hold Ukraine". Russia wins of Ukraine is prevented from joining NATO and loses control of the breakaway republics in the East.

      Not every war is a war of conquest, or an American style adventure in mass murder and mismanagement.

        • HotelWakanda [none/use name]
          ·
          3 years ago

          The stupid thing is that all we had to do was split NATO in two, with Western Europe being its own thing and Visegrad becoming its own military alliance explicitly not under our nuclear umbrella.

    • PrideBoy [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Maybe you’re right. It’s pretty impossible to defeat insurgency tactics.

      But i don’t think the Ukrainians are willing to go to the lengths the Vietnamese had to go to to win.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        It’s pretty impossible to defeat insurgency tactics.

        Defeating an insurgency is easy. Just exterminate the population. Worked great for the various European powers. Australia is a good example of using the extermination of the entire enemy population to end an ongoing insurgency.

      • fawx [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I mean losing 5% of your military (not saying they lost 5% necessarily) is a pretty big fucking deal. Couple that with sanctions and what seems to be a growing anti-war sentiment back home... I think he's got maybe another month or two til pressure is so great he's gotta dip out. And I think Ukraine can hold out that long.

        • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          5% of their deployed forces. They only deployed 10-15% of their total military. So they have lost 0.5-0.75% of their military power, and none of their best stuff.

          Also that 5% that has been removed from battle isn’t necessarily dead, it would also include all damaged vehicles and injuries.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Losing 5% of your military is well within the scope of acceptable loses. I'm told that in a "Real" war, which this certainly is not, losing 30% of your troops to achieve an objective is considered acceptable. In a pitched war between near parity powers like the US and China you'd probably be looking at losing more than 100% of your military personnel over the course of the war, meaning everyone in the infantry is either crippled or killed and gets replaced by fresh troops.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Spoken Ukrainian overlaps 75% with spoken Russian. Even if they do decide to annex all of Ukraine it won't be like the US blundering around in Afghanistan. It's more like Chicago invading and occupying Indiana.

    • Abraxiel
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      3 years ago

      I think you're in the minority of stated opinions here at least. I don't know exactly what I think is going to happen. It will certainly not be a success for the people of Ukraine or the masses of the world.

    • HotelWakanda [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      In 40 years maybe, Russia is by and large a petrol state so once we don’t need it anymore that state is doomed. (Also flooding in China will require its population to relocate to a suddenly warmer Arctic assuming anthrax in the soil doesn’t spread