https://twitter.com/AlpacaAurelius/status/1612242835822235649
When I got to fresh breast milk ice cream at the end I fucking died :data-laughing:
Still trying to figure out what they need the cows for then :jesse-wtf:
Instead of Stardew Valley, he played a fetish porn game and went "This is it. This is what my ancestors' lifestyles were all about."
Even though I'm part native american and welsh my viking ancestors lived the plot to Bible Black and I'm retvrning to tradition.
Can't qualify for USDA dairy subsidies without livestock. Although congress could easily change this.
They're just pet cows that give the illusion of a wholesome bucolic life.
That's legit a line taken directly from vegancirclejerk, the combination of that and the context is making my head spin a little
The whole thing sounds like a VCJ bit account. It's just a little too :chefs-kiss: not to be.
The farming thing is the scariest of red flags for me. I believe the appeal is exclusively isolating family so you can abuse them.
Farming is hard and miserable work. Some people enjoy it, but they're the sort to that always needs something to do and they're too busy doing shit to be posting about breast milk ice cream on the internet.
Working 90 hours a week, waking up at 5 AM and going to sleep at 9 PM.
Having the constant stress on the back of your mind that a storm, lack of rain or sudden drop in temperature could ruin your income for the year and insurance will barely cover your expenses.
No, thanks, I'll stick with my desk job
I lived on a 'farm' (it was an old timey farms worth of land, like a kilometer but hadn't been acrually farmed for years), it didn't acrually need to be productive it was basically just a giant hobby garden. I was a year out of high school and my partner still had a year (we lived with her grandma at the farm) so we'd sell pot at the high school/shitty small town that I'd get when I hitched into town, so I basically lived Stardew Valley for a while. Shit is fun when it's optional, but acrually needing a decent yield to survive would be hell.
What if all you needed to do was produce enough to feed yourself + family?
Just posted a more or less reply to your thing in the mega about people that farmed historically cause there hadn't been industry yet and they had to. Here's the copy pasta to explain stuff more:
Also thinking that every individual farm was entirely self sustaining and totally isolated. There was like, common land, and trading shit with neighbors and like generally some form of community of a bunch of people with farms because that is fucking necessary to do agriculture and not starve, kinds why civilization came from it, cause you need to organize with others to make this literal Life Hack actually work. The family from The VVitch got excommunicated, they weren’t the norm.
I won’t be opposed to that either. A bunch of small farms run by commies, with a shared common land. We grow shit we want + need, trade with each other (according to need, obviously) and maybe sell the extra stuff at a local town market….
Really? I thought that was a valid thing tho. Like, we need money for rent + food. So if you can already make food via a farm you own…then isn’t it just done already? If you make some more food or something you can sell it at the local market and get some money to buy some luxuries. And you can exchange your crops with your neighbors etc, get a good exchange thing going.
Maybe I’ve just seen too many ghibli movies lol
A lot of this is covered via my copy pasta I just sent of a recent post I made on the topic. If you know what you are doing, you could maybe. The food doesn't just happen magically nor can you rely on getting a good yield. Shit weather, bugs, being too sick to tend crops, the fact that The Local Market for you in this day and age is a weekend farmers market where you're probably competing with actual industrial farms but with crunchy advertising and selling to a small crowd of hippies and other people who wake up and go out early on a Saturday, there also just isn't a market in the economic sense for sustainability. Even industrial farms rely massively on government subsidies. It simply isn't reliable. In the past it was more doable because the economy was agrarian and that's how everyone was operating. The other factor is the OG farmers could pass down folk knowledge and it could work okay without real science because they weren't going through globally unprecedented without a meteor hitting levels of climate change. To know how to grow shit good in our current conditions is like brain surgeon levels of science.
We didn't even have animals that we did farm related stuff with :im-vegan: and so was everyone else. We hat kitties and dogs and a goat but they were just there to live their best lives.
It turns out that taking and chomping theirneggs I'd bad for chickens cause the est it back up themselves if it isn't fertilized and get back some of the massive nutrient loss in egg laying. We didn't know that at the time so we did exploit some chickens out of ignorance
Back off, bucko. They've played Stardew Valley and Minecraft so they know what they're talking about.
Farms and farming are just some of the totemic concepts these alienated urban basement weirdos like to latch on to and fetishize despite not knowing a thing or two about how they actually work. They just think it's based and not soy
Nobody told me that greenhouses are mostly run through advanced maths. Knowing anything about your soil, advanced maths and chemistry. Being competitive or efficient with your crops, advanced maths and genetics. To even be a bachelors level horticulturist you essentially do a path similar to pre-med. Without that level of knowledge there's so much that can go wrong with farming and reliance on common knowledge is incompatible with climate change.
Sounds like some kind of woke CRT (((farming))). You just need a house and a plot of land as well as cows, chickens, pigs and a couple of horses. You, your wife and children will do all the work
The original Amerikan homesteading ideal is that your slaves do all the work.
Yeah, in reality they'd probably just be sitting on horseback with a big rifle pointed at the enslaved black people and Mexicans actually doing the work. Of course, this guy most likely does not belong to the class that would be owning the farms anyway
Farming is complicated and requires math <<< I farm because I like math and having a schedule
Farming is not easy and I don't even do the kind of farming these idiots are talking about. I don't grow fucking wheat I work with trees. Spring pruning is a pain in the ass and you need a team. Of adults. Not a pregnant wife and kids that say "thou art" and shit. Goddamn morons.
Having 9 kids on a 19th century homestead only worked because 5 would die.
Imagine going and shooting up a jewish elementary school because this is the lifestyle your fascist peabrain wants to bring back.
They forget or ignore most people lived like this, they imagine themselves as little lords. The Nazis planned to have legions of disposable Slavic slaves doing the work on all the German farms in the conquered Lebensraum
It's like the 14 year old neo-nazi goober who thinks he'll be a high ranking officer in the 4th american reich and not purged in a concentration camp for being a G*mer.
All the guys that would have been linebackers now work for the guy that wants all your stuff. Like cops today but without the pesky laws.
Hahaha I just saw this for the first time posted somewhere entirely different
Having 9 kids on a 19th century homestead only worked because 5 would die.
They specifically want to bring this shit back, along with the wife dying in childbirth so you just get another one from a neighboring kingdom you invade because you're a fucking viking bro.
They don't understand that the only reason the Amish get away with it is because they can sell shit to the greater society that exists around them and they engage in some tasks as a community. Not endorsing the Amish btw, weird ass cult, just pointing out that without an external society and an internal community it would all fall apart.
Meanwhile these right wing dorks think a society of tiny homestead fiefdoms would be possible. Lmao.
I almost want to say this account and tweet is a bit, but I'm probably wildly wrong.
Maybe, but if so it's not original to the bit.
Edit: I don't think it is. Too much work, too many videos, etc. God bless if they are fucking around, wish I was committed to something like that.
Dude has an online store where he sells dehydrated meat.
There's farming and then there's farming. One kind of farming is the homesteading settler colonialist who lives isolated in the frontier abusing his family and getting high on reactionary power fantasies. That kind of farming is creepy as hell.
Another kind of farming is the farm that is part of a village, the way most people have lived for millennia. People dream of that kind of farming in part because it implies being part of a community and escaping the alienation of existence under capitalism. When I think back on my grandparents who lived on a farm they were anything but isolated and were active in all sorts of volunteer organisations and were friends with their neighbours.
And then there's a third kind of farming, the mechanised modern agriculture that replaced the villages, secured a stable food supply, freed up labour for other activities and created untold environmental destruction. Nobody has romantic dreams of this kind of farming but it is the kind of farming we actually have and have to build on.
c'mon, you should be capable of understanding that they're not saying "anyone who wants to move to the country is a monster"
they're saying that part of the appeal of living in isolation to right-wingers is that they can use that isolation to rule over their families like tyrants
Actually, fuck it. I'm down with your interpretation of OP AND I AGREE! DOWN WITH FARMS, FARMERS AND AGRICULTURE! Starving because of not growing food is the only way to not be a rapist. This is how I truly feel.
No clearly the only acceptable way to do agriculture is mass produced corporate farms (the kind that feeds me in my apartment!). Anything else is abusive and creepy and evil
This is liberal enlightened centrism. No farmer is innocent. Anyone caught with so much as a window garden:gulag:
"Land to grow on" is absolutely a different thing from imaging an isolated compound full of inbred children organized as an indoctrinated labor force and women acting as subservient literal fetish cattle all while ignoring the complexities of farming and husbandry on a productive scale.
No it did not. I also explained that the fantasy they were presenting was not "farming", and I specifically said actual farmers are not posting hucow bullshit on the internet. It was clearly in the context of the original tweet.
:deeper-sadness:
I've done a season as a hand. I'd love some land to grow potatos on. My entire life has been labor. I do not understand where you're getting this from.
The rest of the post, that you seem to refuse to acknowledge:
Farming is hard and miserable work. Some people enjoy it, but they’re the sort to that always needs something to do and they’re too busy doing shit to be posting about breast milk ice cream on the internet.
I've done labor, I've got the scars to prove it. I'm sincerely broken as person due to years of abuse as one of the lowest paid people in the system. Whatever you're on about is way misguided.
First, they specifically acknowledge in the original tweet they want TO BUY a farm. They are not a farmer. I am more of a farmer than them, and I am absolutely not a farmer.
Any farmer who isn't toiling away in the fields and specifically posts about the compound they want to brainwash their children in and turn women into cattle is an abuser. What is hard to understand about this? This is not what farmers do. We have another farmer in here, and they are not horny posting.
No, I will not edit it. Because you're being secretarial, disingenuous, and seem to refuse to untie domestic abuse fantasies from being working class.
Warning the mods we have another obvious wrecker account here posting dumb shit again.
A year of farm labor
I've already told you I've done it, holy shit. Have you?
I'm begging you please stop ignoring the rest of my point to you can continue to be mad. It was in the original post, it wasn't edited in, you simply chose to ignore it so you could make this into a personal attack. No one is saying what you claim they are.
I'm gonna be real honest with you; I am more concerned with what's going on with you than what you think of me. I do not care about your opinion; I am a human being who has made mistakes, and you alone are not worthy of judging anyone. I am concerned with your fixation on delving out fantasy punishments as if you were some tyrant speaking the will of Mao's revolution, that's not healthy and a actual red flag.
I hope you find peace, and I hope you're okay. That's all I've got to offer you at this point.
They said it's concerning because it likely meant they wanted an isolated family to lord over.
Mao would sentence everyone in this comment section to a year of farm labor
You're the only one that read it as a personal attack on farmers.
Maybe they should correct their comment to not say “the farming thing is the scariest of red flags to me” then. But who cares, all the farmers are too poor and illiterate to be on here to get offended anyway, who cares what those abusive Chuds think amirite?
Just don’t enjoy classism or people just lying through their teeth and denying the plain text in front of them to overlook that classism
If you want to win over the global masses and the poor, casual anti-farmer moralism ain’t it
Have you tried interpreting the comment outside of the most uncharitable version possible.
Maybe they should try writing what they mean instead of making broad attacks and then hiding behind obfuscations.
Did you not read the second sentence?
Farming is hard and miserable work. Some people enjoy it, but they’re the sort to that always needs something to do and they’re too busy doing shit to be posting about breast milk ice cream on the internet.
Man you’re annoying. I’m going to assume you’re the breast milk guy and just mad that people are making fun of you
Make fun of this guy, I encourage it. That comment is far, far broader than this one guy or type of guy. They need to be more careful with their words which is obvious classism.
The first part is self evident anti-farming moralism, the 2nd part is some sort of farmer noble savage where the pure good farmers are toiling in the dirt and cannot read internet good
This is true actually. Some nerds are trying to introduce """context""" but the truth is if you WANT to OWN LAND (i.e imperialism, settler nonsense) just to GROW ON (perversion, abuse of nature) then you're a creep. Sorry.
If I want vegetables I'll just go to the grocery store.
Yes only corporations can ethically do massive monoculture and destroy the land. Individuals doing it cannot be tolerated
I like how even in their masculine retvrn fantasy they still can't stop thinking about their ice cream treats
Gotta love all the fash who just go out and air their weird fetish laundry out where everyone can see it
Also, boys want people to cuddle with, play some Pathfinder, build a pillow fort and wrassle in the bed with
And yes, I am boys, I know
boys want someone who knows all the Bionicle lore and has one of those clicky pens that have four colors on them instead of just one
Boys will be girls and girls will be boys, it's a mixed-up, muddled-up, shook-up world except for human breast milk ice cream.
Actually mixing muddling and shaking is more or less how ice cream is made.
Gonna fill my wife with hormones so she produces milk, even though the kids are grown and all.
I mean... doesn't it just keep going as long as it's being extracted? Otherwise how do those people who breastfeed their 10 year olds do it
I've never thought about it and I hate that you made me think about it.
This was the final thought you needed to embody your handle.
My head exploded like Scanners and then reassembled as a different person's head upon reading that post.
It hasn't happened to me (yet?) but progesterone has also been known to cause lactation in trans women
Yeah, my wife started drying up about a year after the kids were born. She used to drink fenugreek to increase production. I'm not sure if it worked much, but it made her taste like maple syrup down there
https://carnivoreaurelius.com/sunlight-a-miracle-forgotten-health-cure/
I don't what no even no
He believes that sunbathing makes your penis bigger, "Unfortunately this maxes out around 20 inches."
edit: but also ties solar medicine to the wisdom of the Ancient Greeks, who famously saw large penii as barbaric and small penopodes as noble.
editedit: https://carnivoreaurelius.com/rise-of-digital-pseudonymity/ What the fuck even is this guy.
First, the real reason they want you to avoid the sun…
Who is the "they" that wants to reduce your penis size? As always, these batshit conspiracy theories immediately fall apart when you try and think about who is benefiting. Literally where are the mondo dick sun boy shlong elites trying to prevent you from having a 20 inch pecker? Who, structurally speaking, benefits from you not having a giant dong, other than your cow fetish tradwife not winding up in the ICU thanks to your uselessly big hentai schwangus?
Who is the “they” that wants to reduce your penis size?
I'm going to guess this is where some anti semitism would come in to plug the logical gaps
Wasn't that a thing reactionary grifters were trying to push a few years ago? They were trying to sell something associated with it too, but I forget what. Retreats for "sunning" or something I think.
There's a big push in woo crystal chakra adjacent new-agey fascism for "anus sunning" that's getting direct sun on ya b-hole to open your third eye or some incoherent nonsense.
I also wouldn’t be comfortable doing it anywhere other than a secluded spot in the middle of nowhere tbqh, which makes it pretty inaccessible.
You kidding? I air out my b-hole and get the sun beating down on it from my apartment's deck. Sure it got me on a sex offender watch list but I activated my third eye and can see through Joe Brandon's tricks.
It's big with them. There's like a whole contingent of reactionary hippies who think sunning their butt makes them an indigo child. Either Vice or Channel 5 did an interview with one of them.
What the fuck even is this guy.
The Dunning-Kruger world champion.
"Attempting to block the sun with creams that actually cause the disease, epitomizes how backwards our society is."
Thinking about the chud protest in Australia last year where no one was wearing sunscreen and were blaming their ears peeling on 5G rays.
sounds like shit I don't want to live like a medieval peasant and also dude what the fuck was that last part??
It's really perfect symbolism that the woman's face isn't visible in this "fantasy."
alternative perspective, this guy has a thing about cows. he talking about his pregnant wife, loving cows, and
spoiler
human breast milk ice cream, apparently
Me pausing 80 % of the way through this tweet:
"Huh, the phrase "obsessed with cows" makes this tweet a bit weird".
Those were the innocent days when that was the weird thing about this tweet.
