I am genuinely confused by hexbear too
Is it a site for queer people or for beanis lovers?
You can block them [hexbears], but there are tons of them that have lemmy.world accounts- and post regularly in the political communities.
You’ll know them when you see them.
You’ll know them when you see them.
Yeah you can tell they're Hexbears by their correct opinions and by the fact they don't need to make up lies about the people they don't like online.
The complaints that are like "those tankie assholes. You can always tell it's them because they rbrigade the thread and all post reasonable seeming sources that support their authoritarian tankie bullshit" are my fav bc yes, reality does have a well known tankie bias so nice of you to notice!
Hexbear is gangstalking me. You can tell because any time I shit my pants it was actually Hexbear disinfomat on my phone which subliminally said "shit your pants if you love your country" and I fell for it again.
What the fuck even was the disinformatsiya kompromot bs? Like what was that moment in cultural history? Somehow all the western media flacks got together and decided to make "disinformation" and "compromising information/blackmail" in to spooky exotic secrets of the inscrutable slavorient and people just accepted that and what the fuck?
Politics has always been sily but i don't recall the libs being as found of these absurd theatrical performances in the past. Probably just biased memory, but still it's fucking strange
they also made whataboutism into a spooky "soviet era kgb tactic" despite 1) literally always being used to benefit the west and 2) literally being invented by the British to do the same thing during the troubles in northern Ireland (accusing the Irish of 'whataboutery' whenever British atrocities were mentioned)
No you're right, they used the spooky foreign term to sway people. Why do you think it's always called Das Kapital instead of Capital? Foreign bad
When I was watching Russiagate evolve in subreddits like r/politics back in 2015, I kept seeing Soviet defector and KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov mentioned. He gave a series of talks about Soviet information warfare with the same kind of conspiratorial angle. It allowed liberals to make sense of their republican friends being unhinged fascists and leftists criticising the democrats. Actually their friends aren't bad people and they aren't a bad person by association, it's just the sneaky Asiatic mental magick hypnotising them through facebook memes. Words like disinformation let them feel cool like NAFO goobers use defense buzzwords, and you see the terminal result of that in real specimens like /u/Olivermarkusmalloy.
It's actually illegal to have an account on more then one website. I gave up my bank account to be here.
im unironically convinced that basically all the people who subjected themselves to lemmy world voluntarily and like argue in the threads and stuff arent like long time hexbear users at all really, idk. whenever i peak in at them arguing with liberals on my blahaj alt that i normally just stick to local on it just has a completely different vibe from hexbear. i think most of them are just people who found out about hexbear from libs who thought our whole thing was trolling or whatever and they just wanted to have endless internet fights about dumb shit.
also i almost never see the people they all accuse of being hexbear users brigading ever comment on here
idk, ive got a headache so idk if any if that came out clear but basically its just lemmy.world lemmitors arguing with marginally less bad other lemmitors with reddit debate bro brainworms all on lemmy.world and then accusing everyone that they dont agree with of being a secret hexbear or whatever. They've just got
haunting the brainHexbear brigades Lemmyworld constantly, with all of the posts we make on Lemmyworld, which are things we can actually do, because we are federated with Lemmyworld, and always have been, and always will be.
cant imagine caring about lemmyworld enough to make a fucking alt account to their shitbox. I get enough liberalism while existing outside the internet, thanks.
I don't think about .world at all and it seems like they think about us a lot. Interesting
We are disturbing their carefully curated bubble of boot.
It's really cute how rattled they are by our most mundane of takes, as if it's our fault they fell for one of the most ludicrous propaganda campaigns in recent history
Obviously what's happening here is that they're becoming increasing uncomfortable with the fact the mainstream media and establishment are signalling their intention to abandon the war now that it's obvious who's won, but because they can't look inward and ask themselves why they fell for this imperialist warmongering nonsense in the first place, so it must be those gosh darnn tankies and their worship of authoiritutrainaism that's to blame
Good thing there's a pretty standard set of trope copes.
"Ukraine is too corrupt and wasted our western wunderwaffe", or maybe, "Ukraine kept defaulting to their own tactics instead of using western training because the slavic brainpan is simply incapable of superior angloid warfare" or hell, lets go with a classic for the bitter Ukrainian nazi's if there are still enough alive to have a say "our jewish leadership hamstrung us" -- something in line with the typical satanically racist "garden" thinking.
The kind of narrative that lets them slip on by without considering whether or not they were lied to, or the stability of high GDP economies that don't actually manufacture anything except consent.
The too corrupt thing is kinda true bit that was also widely known before the war. It's why a lot of people had a problem with sending billions of dollars to one of the most corrupt governments in the world that's infested with self avowed neo nazis.
yeah pff, watch them eventually settle on something like "that communist orban betrayed the effort, that's why we lost. we need another red scare, but this time for real!"
Hexbears can’t answer the question “is it ok to kill civilians” without asking “Palestinian or Ukrainian?”
Prolonging the war saves Ukrainian lives how? Really, someone from an outside instance answer. I promise not to debate you and just take your opinion.
For some non-Hexbearians reading this: I actively want to prevent Ukrainian conscripts (many of whom are avoiding the draft) from getting chewed up in the meat grinder. Yes, Russia bad. But I have zero control over what Russia does, wheres my own leaders are trying to drag this war out until every able bodied person in Ukraine is disabled or dead.
People on here have always been critical of the west’s bloodthirsty enthusiasm for depleted uranium on Ukrainian soil (people have to live here after this shit!), Ukrainian industry and properties being privatized, refugees being mistreated by Europeans, conscripts (hell we’re more charitable to these guys compared to IDF conscripts because Israelis aren’t fleeing their “country” to escape the draft), and we even become perplexed by the west’s so called aid to Ukraine that’s full of inefficient military contractors looking for a quick buck first before helping Ukraine’s military, or how Ukraine’s local governments are corrupt and failed to build proper defenses to stop Russians and no consequences were dealt by the Ukrainian government
These westoids don’t give a fuck about any of that. As far as they’re concerned, the ghost of Kyiv is still kicking ruzzyianaski ass 50000:1
yeah, like, even if we pretend the west is awesome cool democracy and russia needs to be destroyed, HOW IS THIS INCOMPETENT MESS YOU'RE DOING GONNA ACHIEVE THAT???
but no, we just have to want it very hard and it'll come.
I will reciprocate their vibes-based take on what Hexbears think, and presume that they believe Putin would just be emboldened by victory in Ukraine and promptly invade another country. Thus, the war can only stop if Putin is defeated.
While simultaneously believing that a single Western tank can destroy an entire brigade of Russian ones without taking damage, and that a single F-16 is sufficient to maintain a permanent no fly zone
Geez the HUD in the movie did not age well. It looks like someone did it in MS Paint.
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U C, Putin is actually Hitler, and Hitler wanted to conquer to world, so Putin wants to conquer the world.
Just don't ask why Russia is only invading Ukraine. They do want all the other countries too.
But then you could easily say that Russia only has the economic power to fight one enemy at a time
Did I mention that Hitler and Putin are also Voldemort? That might help.
Not just why only Ukraine, but Putin has been at the head of Russia for over 25 years. Before Ukraine the only military interventions Putin got Russia involved in were in places that were in Russia (Chechnya and Dagestan). I guess there’s Syria but even libs don’t see that one beyond just aiding Assad.
If Putin wants to conquer Europe he sure is taking his sweet time.
imagine my complete and utter shock as I read the wiki page on the russo-georgian war only to find what finally brought things to conflict was NATO considering Georgia for membership
Not Georgia, South Osetia, a internationally unrecognized state which nevertheless maintained de facto independence since 1991. And it wasn't even an invasion - Georgians started ethnically cleansing Osetians and Osetians called Russia for help. Pretty much humanitarian intervention, especially that Georgians were also incited by west. Entire thing ended way less bloody than Ukraine because Georgians weren't terminally nazi brained and backed off. Unsurprisingly, Russia didn't invaded entire Caucasus and west Asia after this, nor even any parts of Georgia.
Fun fact: it also ended the very popular and decades old Russian genre of "Georgian jokes" which portrayed Georgians like incredibly foolhardy and incredibly tough people - because entire Georgian army withdrawn when a single spetsnaz brigade shown up.
Yeah, it makes what happened in the Ukraine even more outrageous since the example of Georgia was right there, just 6 years prior.
I saw a map of “countries Russia likely to invade next” and it was literally the CSTO.
It's very funny to me that liberals will say all this shit and never have the receipts. This isn't the first time I've seen them accuse people of liking Pol Pot, that seems to be one of their go-tos.
They're constantly spewing these conspiracy theories about Russian agents or conservatives in disguise, while adamantly refusing to understand how anyone could not subscribe to "vote blue no matter who" and lesser-evilism. I keep making fun of them but they just keep doing it and I only have so many clever bits in me. Though I was quite proud of my most recent one.
Humor really takes them off-script. If you say, "I'm not a Russian agent," well, that sounds like what a Russian agent would say. If you try to say, "There are legitimate reasons for an ordinary person to believe what I'm saying," well, sounds like you're using that as an excuse to spread more Russian propaganda. It's a solid conspiracy theory with a response for every angle, but they just don't know what to make of it when you start doing a bit like that.
That was also the thinking behind my Phoenix Wright theming, that, and that I could get away with being like, "Do you have any
evidenceto support that claim?" I kinda dropped it because it got old fast but it's nice to have in my back pocket when they get ridiculous.It was pretty hilarious how quickly the wind went out of their sails
"This person cited numerous sources on Tiannemen" is apparently proof that they are wrong, somehow.
Also saw an account with a trans flag, which is surprising they would accommodate such a person or such a person would have those weird views on lemmygrad.
mfw the ebil communists dont actually crucify the queers like i fantasise about them doing:
so funny that there's people so insulated from here that they dont know we have the highest trans population of any instance on lemmy despite the fact that no one here ever shuts up about explaining it (me included) weighing in with their highly informed takes on
Russian bots
Lmao, these liberals are incapable of having original thoughts
Not even calling us Chinese bots is so disappointing. It pays way better these days
My question is if they think we’re all bots then why even worry about it?
It’s just so… weird.
Like it seems like they genuinely believe it. I can’t see that it’s useful to have a whole server of propaganda-bots all just talking to each other; it seems like probably some decent number of them are real actual people.
At least one of them is on the cusp of sentience
Complains about hexbear but links a lemmygrad thread.
Smh we're stealing valor
I was confused about that too but it actually links to a hexbear thread being viewed through lemmygrad's website. I don't know why they are browsing hexbear through lemmygrad and then posting it to lemmy.world.
This is the thread that was linked by lemmy.world. https://hexbear.net/post/2686688
I don't know why they are browsing hexbear through lemmygrad and then posting it to lemmy.world.
They weren't. The post was crossposted from our News comm to Lemmygrad's WorldNews comm - which is probably how they stumbled upon it and why their link goes to Lemmygrad. See here: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/4726123
Lemmyworld isn't federated with Lemmygrad afaik but I assume they were just looking for any leftist opinion to mald about lmao
That's the thread they're losing their minds over?
They should consider themselves lucky that the news mega never shows up on their feeds, I think their smooth brains would literally melt if they read our comments there
iirc they don’t allow downvotes, plus dunking on someone is the entire point, and also the icons rendering there is different (significantly smaller) than the giant versions that they render as elsewhere. And yes, the made-up language aspect as well.
Are these guys 70 years old? Who calls emojis “made up languages” lol
I’m genuinely confused by, who even are these people
The west employed Henry Kissinger for decades and are confused with the concept of strange alliances? Besides, material reality doesn’t give a shit about grand gestures and ideas, so things aren’t pretty. NATO literally includes Turkey. Wanna talk about that since we care so much about the purity and sanctity of our ideas? Hungary? Poland? What about feminist icon Joe Biden’s friendship with Saudi Arabia and the other gulf states? What about the US’ relations with the fascist Philippines and Japan? Shut the fuck up.
What I have learned: * Russia has already won the Ukraine war
Lol all we do is repost western, liberal news articles and they get upset. Don’t get mad at us. Go complain and send a letter bomb to the NYT and Politico. We’re just reading what you people write.
I don’t even think they are accelerationists at this point. I think they are all either information warfare operatives or useful idiots. The hexbear admin has essentially admitted to this.
I’ve reported the administration to the FSB internal affairs. You will be served a termination letter tomorrow morning then promptly executed for leaking operation details to the enemy.
“made up languages”
I think they're referring to terminology.
I recently saw one of the top minds of .world claim that using "liberal" correctly was, "intentionally confusing. It’s a Russian psyop tactic that tankies have picked up."
Yes, it’s likely terminology. I know libs in real life that literally can’t understand what “material conditions” could possibly mean and think it’s some super complicated concept.
I also think they were referring to the emotes themselves, having meaning that probably only we know about so seems impenetrable to non Hexbears
Lemmy users on average are older than every other social media platform and that includes Facebook.
My father is on Lemmy. And so are my children. And I am ancient as the cosmos.
You're secretly an agent of da joos/chairman xi/putler/geogre soros/woke whatever the fuck stopped being funny so, so long ago. : (
The hexbear admin has essentially admitted to this.
Source? I wanna see their exact words
Source: No source, because all this shit is always made the fuck up. [-7]
Boy that would sure be convenient for your narrative wouldn’t it?
It would be convenient for your narrative if the link was actually posted.
What I have learned: * Russia has already won the Ukraine war
Lol all we do is repost western, liberal news articles and they get upset. Don’t get mad at us. Go complain and send a letter bomb to the NYT and Politico. We’re just reading what you people write.
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my most charitable interpretation is that they saw the hexbear post with the original title and didn't know the headline got changed twice, so they thought our title was editorial
These fuckers just can't stop talking about us, can they? The specter of Hexbear is haunting their lib brains.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/06/opinion/china-anxiety-us-policy.html
"why is everyone so anxious about Chyna?!" – The fucking NYT
The article doesn't mention the movie but probably yes.
Ok but why is there a garlic at the bottom? Or is that supposed to be a cerebellum?
we were never even federated with them! we're just a spectre that looms large over their minds in their little liberal bubble
That’s the weird thing. Every Lemmy post where they complain about Hexbear being shills and bots and Russian agents, I never see a single mention of the mega. They could easily screenshot like 5 different people unironically wishing Putin nukes Ukraine but they don’t. They don’t even have screenshots of people saying infinite genocide on the first world or saying hamas is good lol. These guys’ brain are permanently on Russia. 2016 truly damaged their brains in an irreversible way. It’s terminal.
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They can't even screenshot the weekly chad and cuck rating with Putin as a gigachad smh
The US is into its 8th decade of nonstop anti-USSR propaganda, which has been difficult since 1991, but they've managed to equate USSR and Russia so it's worked out for them.
The Hexbear news mega is one of the best news aggregation/discussion forums I have ever had the pleasure of using. Genuinely.
If you don't have time for it, the mega is just too much to deal with tbh. I often only wander in there when I'm doing a search and a comment leads me into a thread. I know, I know, it's a skill issue.
I don’t think that’s really a problem, you really could use it as a top news stories of the day and be fine, but the added aspect of discussion is nice if you want that too. Truly the best of both worlds imho
always kinda awkward when the libs on other instances are talking about how Hexbears are SUPPORTERS OF TERRORISM AND GENOCIDAL RUSSIAN IMPERIALISTS when referencing posts outside the news mega that I now consider kinda milquetoast and unoffending like "Hamas's actions on October 7th weren't great but Israel is so much worse and we need to overthrow Israel for peace in the region"
meanwhile in the news mega, there are people who (sometimes half-jokingly) say stuff along the lines of "Hamas could kill my grandmother and I'd still let Sinwar use me as a footstool, 72 trillion dead settlers, please carpetbomb Tel Aviv, free Palestine" and "fuck yeah Putin bomb the fuck out of those Azov Nazi scum, don't end the war until the fascists are all dead"
it's simultaneously great and a little disappointing how the news mega has remained essentially conflict-free (in terms of other instances obviously, there's still regular mini-debates/arguments in there between us, which is good; it shouldn't be a total echo chamber) since we federated, even during the weeks where we were federated with a bunch of lib instances. I, like many others, expected a tidal wave of "have you no shame, sir?!" libs coming at me and others in the news mega but it literally never happened. I can count the number of libs that have entered the thread and commented at all, not even necessarily in a hostile way, on one hand.
for some reason the megathreads just seem to completely repel liberals, like they're vampires and we have a bunch of garlic in there. maybe it's just intimidating? maybe they assume it's mostly "hm, the Sri Lankan economy grew X% in the last quarter, simply fascinating" boring political/economic analysis in there and don't bother to check?
It’s weird that those forums are in English, reading the insane takes and rhetoric....
That's the only language I speak. What other language would I use? Is it really that hard to believe not everyone is a liberal?
...Also saw an account with a trans flag, which is surprising they would accommodate such a person or such a person would have those weird views on lemmygrad.
These people are not socialists. It’s all just right wing agitprop. It’s extremely obvious.
Has the right wing started supporting minority rights and an equitable redistribution of wealth while I wasn't looking? I hate libs even more now.
There is no coherent ideology over there besides “America/the West/capitalism should be destroyed.”
Even
s think you should read theoryThat's not at all what we say, it was a famine. The last famine. Not a holocaust. Stop repeating nazi propaganda, please.
I also learned just now that the collapse of the USSR and and its former constituent countries in the 1990s is an example of how great communism is, because when the communism went away, everything got worse. It’s flawless logic; I can see no counter argument. [new comment, same thread]
Genuinely, explain how capitalism coming in and then everything getting worse shows why communism is bad. Or are they saying things didn't get worse under capitalism? Should I tap the "life expectancy in China" sign yet?
Also lets be real, a whole lot of these people are also chronic weed smokers [new comment, same thread]
well that was random.the entire weed comment, didn't include the full thing originally for brevity. But it seems all the more out of place with context.
They do genuinely believe it until and unless they are challenged on it in a way they cannot refute and also simultaneously does not anger them.
If it angers them, they all become screaming sarcastic trolls.
If you manage to do it politely they will act as if they have an extremely nuanced opinion and well we basically believe the same thing with minor differences.
In short, they basically have late stage irony poisoning which has legitimately caused many of them to become delusional and extremely aggressive if correctly agitated.
If you are enough of a leftist to know their more grounded ideas and the lingo / meme culture, you can fit in well until you trigger them with a verboten question or idea.
You are correct that many of the psychological traits are basically the same seen in other cults of personality. Self reinforcing bubble.
Also lets be real, a whole lot of these people are also chronic weed smokers. Sure, in moderation that shit is fine, but use it consistently to the point that you need it to cope with reality and … well long term hallucinogen use kind of warps most people’s sense of reality.
Also lets be real, a whole lot of these people are also chronic weed smokers [new comment, same thread]
Ok boomer
That's not at all what we say, it was a famine. The last famine. Not a holocaust. Stop repeating nazi propaganda, please.
Actually second to last famine. The last famine was caused directly by the nazis burning Eastern Europe to the ground.
kulaks did deserve it though
and for any liberals in the walls "kulak" is not an ethnicity. A kulak was a landowner who decided to burn their crops and kill their animals instead of letting them be collectivised so, fuck em
the collapse of the USSR and and its former constituent countries in the 1990s is an example of how great communism is, because when the communism went away, everything got worse. It’s flawless logic; I can see no counter argument.
this but unironically
Death to America
Oh yeah based democracy ahahahahaha, right, Estonia? Allowing only 42% of your population to vote because the rest's were or their ancestors happened to be Russian, Belarusian or Ukrainian....
Based democracy, right, Russia? Killing countless pro-soviet (mostly) demonstrators in 1993.
The list goes on...
That’s the only language I speak. What other language would I use?
POLSKI KURWA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Has the right wing started supporting minority rights and an equitable redistribution of wealth while I wasn’t looking? I hate libs even more now.
These idiots cannot possibly rationalize that what they are looking at is genuine, since it's starkly contrasting to their own worldview. If they were to start accepting something like that, said worldview would start falling apart, and they'd have to go through the confusion of... gasp... Being wrong!
For instance, I had one case here on lemmy saying I was pretending to be Polish. Because to that person, a Communist Pole is a walking contradiction. They couldn't have simply rationalized the possibility of me being real, partly because of the propaganda they were fed. And so I told them.
Pocałuj mnie w dupę tępy chuju :^)
Next time I think of sending a photo with the front of my passport and a handwritten note telling such a user to fuck off. Oh and I'll include the iconic „glass every Polish home has”.
Also lets be real, a whole lot of these people are also chronic weed smokers
Don't hurl factual statements at me as if they're insults!
it was a famine. The last famine.
well no, the Soviet Union had another famine on the tail end of WW2
Whoa, I should not have hit that link.
Those guys are loons, and now I feel like I’m on a list for seeing that conversation, haha.
In capitalist america people are scared to even hear others talk against their regimes propaganda for fear of being associated with them.
Those guys are loons, and now I feel like I’m on a list for seeing that conversation, haha.
lmao holy shit these dorks are so precious, the only list this dipshit needs to worry about getting on is the National Sex Offender Registry
Heh. You conveniently forgot that Russia invaded Ukraine.no they didnt. history began in april 2024. the russia-ukraine border was always where it is now.
Actually history began in 1922 and ended in 1990. How can the Soviet union invade itself?
