, or maybe even dupe yourself into believing you don't have it anymore
Adam Something is probably a nazi himself (I guess that might be the joke here, but just restating since I still see him floated around some nominally-leftist spaces). He's at least a big dumb idiot fascist.
Well Theres Your Problem invited him on to do an explicitly anti-communist episode. Couldn't possibly guess who's idea that was.
which is disappointing because the people's palace in romania is actually really silly and should be laughed at, but unfortunately we get oops, all anticommunism
its the one where adam something was literally saying "Russia is the way that it is because it never went through the renaissance" pure identity europa shit
I still think they should officially apologize for that episode and delete it. At the bare minimum Adam Something is an extremely unhinged anticommunist, at worst a fascist. He has said that the Soviets were worse than the Nazis at one point, which is a form of genocide denial. I have a screenshot of it somewhere, will try to find it. For all of Liam's faults he still credits the USSR with winning WWII and stopping Nazi Germany.
how does all this fascism keep getting in my reactionary anticommunism
"The west would survive (a nuclear war) in some form or another"
That is a hell of a gamble based on the guess of some youtuber. Russia still has their cold war arsenal what the fuck is wrong with these people.
I am not OK with making decsions about nuclear physics based on wishy thinking
in some form or another
Even in the sense that it's impossible to disprove because if you're wrong, nobodies left to do it, this is just purely infalsifiable even on the more direct approach. A few hundred high ranking government official in a bunker in berlin is technically the west surviving in one form or another
Yeah a not unreasonable point to make is that I actually wasn't worried about the continuation of western values I couldn't give a shit about that but the prospect of me and all my loved ones dying is a concern of mine
Rationalizing the worst possible thing that could ever happen as acceptable. Here is an actually sane take: https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2022/10/03/nothings-more-important-than-avoiding-nuclear-war-notes-from-the-edge-of-the-narrative-matrix/
Words have meaning. I literally just posted in the megathread about how he is a clown but calling him a nazi is absurd. Look at his content, it's overwhelmingly anti-capitalist and definitely left-leaning.
Most people don't have a coherent ideology. Adam Something is a left-lib with terminal anti-USSR brainworms and very dumb takes on Ukraine. He's probably adjacent to Bernie or AOC.
He is not simply a liberal with anti-communist brainworms. He was a fascist as a teenager, has defended allying with fascists in the present day, and then of course also peddles your typical fascist anti-communism. To make matters worse, he is
pilled and thinks waging nuclear war wouldn't be too bad. His ideology is incoherent insofar as he is willing to grab aspects of both liberalism and fascism. That still makes you a fascist though.Azov SSomething supports NAFO and even had a fundraider for €18.000 to have his on a missile.
That alone deserves the wall at least thrice.
Social-Democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism.
Azov something just wants more treats - when presented with the material conditions that underpin the unequal exchange that powers his western lifestyle he immediately breaks out the calipers. This is why we call him and similar social democrats fascist, as all his pretentions to leftism will fall away as soon as they are confronted with anything requiring actual solidarity.
Anti-Communist Social Democrat in the imperial core?
Yep, when things come down to it, that's a fascist.
probably adjacent to Bernie or AOC.
overwhelmingly anti-capitalist
chose one
The people who end up changing their entire base worldview because of political YouTubers seem very fickle and I don't really get it. I know not everyone needs to be an expert on everything, and I know pipelines exist, but it seems like such a fragile thing to base ideology on. It's just a posting aesthetic they've chosen
Considering how much of a dragnet-approach most people seem to have to ideology I don't think it's hard to believe that someone offering an even halfway coherent thought process towards is could win over minds.
I'd wager this person didn't get into fascism on the basis of reading Ernst Jünger or something, it was Erika memes and based trad anti feminism against women with blue hair
People can have their minds changed about politics. It happens quite often.
yeah I know, I've just had bad experiences with people who change their minds so suddenly over things they found online. I've known two people like that who became leftists for a while, and both of them ended up drifting away after just the slightest exposure to something else. One got into leftist stuff because of anarchist memes, Utah Phillips music, and some forgotten youtube debate guy. He became a typical right wing libertarian after seeing a different set of memes, and now he's some kind of Catholic monarchist.
It is a mix of them living a comfortable life while just being afraid of current events... and being kinda stupid.
A former friend I had went from being a Marxist to a Neo-liberal simply because his views are based on what media he is consuming. While I understand that this would affect anyone, he is one of the most impressionable people I have ever met. Youtubers moved on from "leftist" content because they fell out of the fad. He had never understood any theory and is so afraid of imminent fascism (from a liberal perspective) that he thinks that by embracing capitalism, it will keep fascism at bay. Yes, hes a moron. Also he has a massive ego and absolutely no self-awareness, so he would lecture you like he is a well read expert that has always believed something despite just repeating what he heard from his pundits in the past week.
I ended up cutting him off because he was insufferable. It is one thing to agree to disagree to co-exist with a long time friend, it is another when his personality is so corruptible.
It's been said before but what does "fascist" even mean here, materially? That he clicks "like" on some shitty Hitler memes? It's all just consumer identity bullshit. It makes no difference if your a fascist or a neoliberal unless you're joining some White Power gang or the Chicago School or whatever. Posting isn't praxis, you're just a tool for neoliberalism and its fascist puppets no matter what you like to dress as in your cute little internet personas.
I don't think I agree? It makes a difference because action does not sprout out of thin air. It sprouts out of that bullshit first.
Look at all the manifesto murderers. Every single one of them was poisoned via the online shit you're saying doesn't matter. It matters because those people turn into the white power gang, they are a prerequisite that is being successfully met and eliminating that prerequisite is one step towards putting the genie back in the bottle.
Yeah online radicalization is 100% a real thing. It DOES have have an impact if you share "funny" racist memes online. Ironic racism is still racism and is used by white supremacists to infiltrate less political savy groups. Places like 4chan/reddit and twitter breed footsoldiers for fascism.
This is unironically why I try to be kind online. Yeah I can be grouchy sometimes. But it feels good to be nice instead of narcissistic even on a keyboard.
The thing is, while we call it "stochastic" terrorism, it's not really random on a causal level. Most internet fascists don't have the gumption to do shit like that and never will. Most of them aren't "at risk" of such behaviors except from a zoomed-out statistical perspective that doesn't really capture their specific circumstances. Most of the time these fuckers just do the same shit everyone else does in society, it's just a matter of how racist their anonymous rants about work are on Twitter. Beyond that, most of them are just temporarily maladjusted and will develope more self-regulation within the neoliberal framework as their shitty job beats them down and they conform to their work culture to avoid living as a human cockroach.
People who are too online like us find it very easy to make very alarming stories that put us at the heart of some grand struggle to stifle white supremacy, but it's not that different from the kabuki theater of electoralisn that libs occupy themselves with.
"Some believe that today the main battlefield is the internet. They are right, and the internet is at the forefront of the current ideological struggle." -
Because fascists don't just keep their fascist tendencies online. They'll discriminate against clients, customers, and interviewees at work. They'll cause harm to strangers of the oppressed groups they hate. They'll throw their coworkers under the bus for their own benefit just because they're queer or hispanic or muslim. They'll bully people online and make people feel unsafe
Being neoliberal doesn't preclude them from all but the last of those behaviors, it just changes some of how they phrase it. You think this fucker will be all that much less racist for listening to Destiny about how BLM should be shot up instead of whatever fascist saying the same?
If Destiny is telling his massive audience that BLM should be shot up, why does that not make him a fascist?
Because words have meanings. His stance is very much like the existing stance of the neoliberal state. He's not calling for ethnic cleansing, he is just saying the protests which threaten property must be violently put down because, as a member of the propertied class, he views property as sacred. The racial dynamics of the protest are completely secondary to that basic sanctity of capital.
Fascism is for people who don't hate capitalists but aren't nearly as aggrieved on their behalf as liberals, so a racial or religious or other cultural mythology is added to motivate them to create a paramilitary basis for a takeover by forces who will do purging at least somewhat in accordance with that mythology.
Fair, I don't know anything about Destiny so I was just going off what you said about the BLM thing and totally thought it was just a racial issue
because liberals have ideological reasons to want protestors dead and their reasons are different from those of fascists. it's important to keep track of the difference because you need different tools to fight each of them.
I'm gonna be real with you, I know nothing about Destiny and assumed it was for fascist reasons because I vaguely remember him being racist against black people
he's turbo liberal. he vocally puts the lie to liberal universalism. but he's definitely committed to liberalism as a project.
I thought this dude played video games and streamed them to teenage boys, is he a political commentator now?
has been for years. he started the whole debatebro thing on twitch, and
man is originally from his community. Hasan was briefly friends with him, Contrapoints went on his show repeatedly, etc., back when everyone thought he was just kind of new to the left.
"Thank god I found this rainbow mask. Now I can pretend I am something else while carrying out the same actions."
taiwan flag and ukraine flag...... are you sure you aren't still a fascist?
I'm having a hard time separating bits from actual real terrible hot takes by terrible people
