• Krem [he/him, they/them]
      ·
      5 months ago

      i'm convinced this ketchup and hot dog hate is some ironic thing USians started dreaming up five years ago. what else can you put ketchup on but a hot dog? it's like one of two possible uses for ketchup, besides dipping fries in.

      nooo don't put the hot dog condiment on a hot dog that's weeeeird smuglord

    • bitwolf@lemmy.one
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      5 months ago

      I remember seeing discourse around Mustard being deemed the official hot dog condiment.

      I believe that could play into this. That said, as a ketchup hater I support their motion.

      • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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        5 months ago

        In my mind the standard hotdog isn’t just one or the other, it’s both.

        Like if you asked me out of nowhere to draw a hotdog it would include both ketchup and mustard

        And I don’t say this as a defense, I hate ketchup and I’m not really a fan of hotdogs in general

        • bitwolf@lemmy.one
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          5 months ago

          I recall seeing a lot of toys in my childhood with both condiments also.

          I also recall being asked "ketchup? Mustard?" when getting a hot dog at barbeques.

          I agree it's the standard, but I'll always playfully respond "are you sure you dont want Sriracha?" when asked for ketchup

          • emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de
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            5 months ago

            I mean if you asked me that I would definitely unironically say 'sure' and probably miss the whole point of the joke you were trying to make.

    • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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      5 months ago

      Yeah it's literally in every fastfood i ever seen, OP must be britposting or something. About the rest i have no idea what ranch even is, milkshake is disgusting with anything except rightoid face, and apple pie is most overrated pastry ever.

    • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]
      ·
      5 months ago

      Show

      "Hot dog and ketchup? What's wrong with hot dogs with ketchup? I like hot dogs with ketchup! ...Hey, that fellow's talkin' about me!"

      Show

      "And that makes a difference, doesn't it?"

    • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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      edit-2
      5 months ago

      It's weird if you're a Chicagoan

      Hot dogs traditionally should be served with like onions, relish, tomato slices, pickles, etc. They are depression-era food where you take the cheapest processed meat sausage and then pile it with cheap garden vegetables and canned goods.

      Eating the hotdog with only ketchup is just covering your cheap processed meat tube with high fructose corn syrup. kombucha-disgust

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
      hexagon
      MA
      ·
      5 months ago

      It's a conspiracy to make something as normal as jam on toast seem unnatural

      • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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        5 months ago

        jam on toast? preposterous. in cincinnati, where toast was invented by Coriolanus Toast III, it is customary to have navy beans, hubbard squash, and chili oil on toast. in fact, if you go to the community theater and get jam on your toast, the MC will squirt you with lemon juice and paddle your bottom with a bible.

      • wax_worm_futures [comrade/them]
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        5 months ago

        Jam is a dessert food. It doesn't belong as a central part of a meal.

        Yet Americans will eat it with sweetened peanut butter and sweetened bread and call the resulting creation, whether in its squishiness or its sogginess, a full meal.

      • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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        5 months ago

        It makes no sense to me because I'm an older U.S. millennial and growing up you put three things on yer dog: ketchup, mustard, and relish.

        • dannoffs [he/him]
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          5 months ago

          As a fellow millennial growing up only the stinky kids put ketchup on their hotdogs.

        • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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          5 months ago

          I don't like ketchup and bread together unless there's another condiment there. Just mustard dog, hell fucking yes, mustard rules, plain relish dog, okay, cool thats fine. Plain ketchipdog I won't even eat. It needs a friend.

      • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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        5 months ago

        it's a Chicago and New York thing pretty exclusively to think ketchup on a hotdog is weird. but lots of media comes from those places, so it gets conflated with "all the sophisticated people on the continent feel this way".

        • ryepunk [he/him]
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          edit-2
          5 months ago

          Imagine believing anything about a hot dog could be considered sophisticated. Like eat the left over meat chunks we crammed into a meat tube and dump like 15 dollars of condiments and vegetable toppings, but don't use the wrong one or else it'll become gauche!

    • Angel [any]
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      5 months ago

      I eat my vegan dogs sans ketchup. I would never do that! Back in high school, my 10th grade history teacher said that ketchup on hot dogs is an abomination, and I totally agree with him.

      Mustard, relish, onions? Absolutely. Maybe a simple vegan chili and cashew cheese if I'm feeling to load it up too.

  • Tomboymoder [she/her, pup/pup's]
    ·
    5 months ago

    I feel like the apple pie one has got to be one of those engagement bait things.
    I've heard of the other three, but surely that's not actually a thing.

  • CrispyFern [fae/faer, any]
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    5 months ago

    Whenever I heard about apple pie with cheese, my brain always pictured cream cheese or ricotta/mascarpone or whatever. People are really out here melting cheddar over their apple pies?! jesse-wtf

    • the_itsb [she/her, comrade/them]
      ·
      5 months ago

      yes, the sharper the better, or so I'm told

      I didn't care for it the one time I tried it, seemed like a waste of two things that would be better separate

      • Wisp [fae/faer, any]
        ·
        5 months ago

        This is how I feel about pineapple on pizza. It’s okay but id prefer pizza with a side of pineapple

    • grendahlgrendahlgen [he/him, any]
      ·
      5 months ago

      IMO it's much better if you don't melt the cheese. A slice of very sharp cheddar beside your pie of good as hell though.

    • the_itsb [she/her, comrade/them]
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      5 months ago

      one of the many ways you remind me of my little brother

      edit: "little" - he's <2 years younger than me and hasn't been smaller than me since kindergarten, but ykwim

        • the_itsb [she/her, comrade/them]
          ·
          5 months ago

          It's true, there's just something about your vibe and sense of humor that reminds me of him.

          He is genuinely the best person I know, so please take this as the compliment it's intended to be. He is the funniest person I know, but of course our senses of humor overlap a lot because we grew up together. So he's great fun, but he's also incredibly compassionate and loyal, brilliant, gentle, dedicated, and wise. He is kind, generous, devoted, and forgiving to a fault; I have seen him drop everything to help a friend of a friend, to his own detriment, repeatedly.

          Obviously I don't know you as a person like I know him, just want to make sure the "little brother" thing came across in the positive manner I meant and not somehow demeaning or disparaging.

          stalin-heart

          And he fucking loves ketchup. 😂 That's all he ever puts on hotdogs. He used to eat ketchup toast and ketchup & cheese sandwiches when we were little! 🤢😂

  • TheDoctor [they/them]
    ·
    5 months ago

    Where in the US is it abnormal to have ketchup on hot dogs? This is completely standard where I live. Like if you order a hot dog and don’t specify anything else, you will get ketchup on it.

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]
      ·
      5 months ago

      Chicago and New York pride themselves on hating ketchup

      Chicago will serve you a salad on your dog and New York will give you onion relish

    • Ishmael [he/him]
      ·
      5 months ago

      Chicago

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago-style_hot_dog

    • Ishmael [he/him]
      ·
      5 months ago

      In fact, if you go to a Chicago White Sox baseball game and you ask for ketchup on. your dog, they ring a Bell of Shame

  • Moonworm [any]
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    5 months ago

    All of these are actually good and mostly rely on combining sweet and savory flavors to different degrees. Three of them are also foods that are associated with being poor and déclassé.

    Personally never really been into ranch on pizza or in general, but I begrudgingly respect that it works.

    The one I'll really stick up for is apple (or other sweet fruit filling) pie with cheese. It's really tight to have something like a swiss to cut the sweetness and round out the flavor profile there.

    • Adlach@lemmygrad.ml
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      5 months ago

      Preach. I'm weirded out by how judgy people get about food, especially mixing flavor profiles. Pineapple on pizza is another big one.

    • Moonworm [any]
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      5 months ago

      Another thing that is really good is chocolate and cheese, especially with a nice fruit. One time I got served a "wedding proposal" which was dark chocolate, apricot, and monchago.

      • Adlach@lemmygrad.ml
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        5 months ago

        I love cheese and chocolate. I crave a white cheese like mozzarella or brie whenever I have some dark chocolate.

  • 4am@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    People: have you tried this cheese with a Ritz cracker and some fig jam? It’s so wonderful and high class

    Also people: CHEESE ON AN APPLE PIE? YOU DONUT

  • abc [he/him, comrade/them]
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    5 months ago

    ranch on pizza can go because growing up, I used to get joked on because I thought it was DISGUSTING and all my cracker ass friends would be like "no you just haven't had it with the right ranch it has to be a HOUSE ranch" (wtf do you mean by 'house ranch' Steve, literally every restaurant is probably using the same goddamn hidden valley packets or whatever)

    they'd order breadsticks with ranch??? no dip them in fucking marinara or spaghetti sauce, not fucking ranch what is wrong with you oooaaaaaaauhhh

    • Rose Thorne(She/Her)@lemm.ee
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      5 months ago

      Dude, nah, restaurant ranch hits different. It's not just some Hidden Valley powder, there's a recipe for that shit, and you know when it's done right. Totally different flavor profile, Ken's is the closest I've tasted a store brand get.

      I've been the bitch back there makin' sauces. You gotta get your mix down to a fuckin' science, and you best be usin' buttermilk for that shit.

    • LeylaLove [she/her, love/loves]
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      5 months ago

      I hate ranch, but will say that good restaurant ranch is way better. It's made with fresh buttermilk pretty much always, and many restaurants will add fresh herbs to it.

      I work in a Midwestern fast food restaurant RN and see people order ranch with anything. Corn dogs, mozzarella sticks, fries, I swear to god white midwesterners will put it on fucking anything.

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      edit-2
      5 months ago

      I’m not a ranch fan but restaurant ranch is different. It’s often made in house and since it doesn’t have to be shelf stable as long so they can use different ingredients

      On pizza is still insane no matter the quality of the ranch