• StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml
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    1 hour ago

    Was there even a single swing state where third party voters made up the difference between Kamala and Trump??

    I know y'all just love punching left. that's what got us into this mess. I guess there's no use in learning from it now seeing as you'll never really get to vote in an election again.

  • culpritus [any]
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    5 hours ago

    If all these 'leftists' could just shutup about the ongoing genocide, then Harris might have won. Dick Cheney is better than these jokers.

    • Storm@lemm.ee
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      4 hours ago

      If Harris gave a shit about the American people and put her money where her mouth is, she would have won. The Democrats are feeble and weak, and now they're paying the price for it.

      • Adkml [he/him]
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        13 minutes ago

        Dems can get the entire party to coalesce around a unified message overnight and kill a campaign in a week.

        As long as its a progressive.

        It's just a matter of their priorities.

        They could have wiped the floor with Trump but that would have required them to advocate for progressive policies and they'd rather lose while having brunch with the Cheyneys and Branston of the world.

      • kkitsuragisleftnut [he/him]
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        2 hours ago

        Weak and feeble? Or actively aiding and abetting fascism? At some point the American electorate has to admit to themselves the Democrats are complicit.

        • Storm@lemm.ee
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          55 minutes ago

          Oh no, I'm not denying the fact that she's actively supporting fascism. The Democrats are horribly out of touch.

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    6 hours ago

    Australian news just blamed Latin Americans for Trump's win.

    Lmao you can't make this shit up. Doesn't take much to get crackers doing racist shit.

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      11 minutes ago

      I like how white people get a pass because everybody knee they'd do this.

      57% of male Latinos went for Trump l, something like 75% of white males did.

      Obviously it's the Latinos fault.

      Oh and white women voted for Trump for a third straight election make sure to keep that in mind if another pussy hat protest pops up.

    • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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      15 minutes ago

      The fun part is even if that was true, it just makes the dems more incompetent because when he was running Bernie was doing incredibly well with that demo

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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      4 hours ago

      Like

      It's funny because they keep lumping Latine people into this big ball like they don't grasp that Latin America isn't a monolith

      A Columbian isn't the same as an Argentinian isn't the same as a Dominican

      The social stratum of these countries is just a complex and varied as any other nation

      But nope, "y'all speak Spanish, so y'all the same"

      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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        33 minutes ago

        And even when they acknowledge it there’s still lots of weird generalizations. Some journalist in 2020 said the Guatemalan diaspora voted Democrat because they’re all indigenous which is a huge lol if you know the demographics and culture of this country

    • 2Password2Remember [he/him]
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      4 hours ago

      heard the same thing in one of the italian news podcasts i listen to. straight up just "blacks and hispanics are misogynistic so they voted for trump". scratch a lib, etc

      Death to America

    • Moss [they/them]
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      6 hours ago

      Everything I hear about Australia makes it seem like they're desperately trying to let everyone know how reprehensible the ruling class there is

      • CloutAtlas [he/him]
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        4 hours ago

        The ruling class (emboldened since Trump. Not the other day, the first time) is ramping up division to try and win elections because it really works on barely engaged proles.

        They're hiring ad companies to throw anti labour ads on Facebook (which Australian millennials still use for some reason). Those ads weren't even true, Labor is no way that based, and they disguised them as shitposts instead of sponsored political attack ads.

        Luckily the (relative) lack of Christian nationalists compared to the US means there's a much weaker Evangelical base.

        • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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          14 minutes ago

          Yeh we have a much more secular racism and misogyny 🤦‍♂️

  • halyk.the.red@lemmy.ml
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    5 hours ago

    Lots of hardcore republicans where I'm at, and they're saying Trump's lead this time is proof that the last election was stolen. I wouldn't be surpeised if there was widespread voter fraud on the right, but I doubt it would be to the tune of millions to explain the gulf we witnessed.

    • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]
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      7 hours ago

      Had a lib (of course with an Israel flag in their handle) legitimately tell me that Leftists successfully convinced millions not to vote over on Lemmy.world yesterday.

      • Rom [he/him]
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        3 hours ago

        We have the power to convince people not to vote, but not to get them to vote for our candidate, apparently.

        • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]
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          4 hours ago

          I agree to an extent, my position is more that Harris fumbled the ball hard by not promising popular policies like Medicare for All or ending the genocide.

      • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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        5 hours ago

        That shit really makes my blood boil. I work tirelessly at Langley to prevent that exact thing from happening! If a leftist is posting too good then I report them to get injected with cringe takes and nanobots. You think I'm just twiddling my thumbs if someone starts rocking the boat??? Sincerely, fuck you!

        I have a bunch of coworkers who love using .world too! They sort of look at me funny because I have to monitor "that website where the pig shits itself." But .world and Langley are literally on the same side so it's extra hurtful when they belittle my job like that. It feels like a betrayal, honestly...

      • roux [he/him, they/them]
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        6 hours ago

        The ones that didn't vote are mostly disenfranchised life long Dems and Repubs, I fucking promise.

      • OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml
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        5 hours ago

        How the Israeli flag is not immediately subconsciously synonymous with disinformation for everyone at this point is beyond me.

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        7 hours ago

        Damn, if we held so much power the dems should have done more to court our influence! Too bad they love genocide more than they want to win.

        • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]
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          7 hours ago

          Literally what I told them, either Leftists didn't make a difference and Harris floundered on her own, or Leftists made a huge difference and Harris intentionally rejected them, failing.

          • bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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            3 hours ago

            I've had that same argument, turns into "well if she did that she'd lose more moderates than she'd gain leftists!!1!"

            • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]
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              3 hours ago

              Tell em that Biden ran a more progressive campaign and churned out voters, same as Bernie, and voter turnout was far higher.

              • bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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                3 hours ago

                Not worth it, they're still seething let reality sink in a bit and let them get off "must defend Harris unconditionally" mode

        • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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          6 hours ago

          we sneaky leftists tricked the democrat leadership into tacking to the right wing, thereby making it easy to disillusion and dissolve their bloc.

          those smol bean millionaire consultants and party bosses walked right into our trap!

      • Hexboare [they/them]
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        6 hours ago

        Leftists successfully convinced millions not to vote

        and I'll do it again