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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict
Add to this if you can, thank you.
Links
Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ukraine/@49.1162725,31.7993839,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d1d9c154700e8f:0x1068488f64010!8m2!3d48.379433!4d31.1655799?hl=en
Leftist discussion threads:
https://hexbear.net/post/177324
https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/
https://lemmygrad.ml/
Twitter military updaters:
https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary
https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet
https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike
https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael
https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518
Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413
Better war/propaganda analysis:
https://www.understandingwar.org
https://www.moonofalabama.org/
News updates:
https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html
Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html
YT/Video in Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/videos
https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTe
I think the reason why westerners are so riled up about this is partially because this is the first time they really have seen what war is like and the victims are portrayed sympathetically
Ukrainians being white certainly helps. I have very clear memories of nobody giving a shit about Iraq or Afghanistan and at worst people just assumed whomever was being shot at was a terrorist.
To this day, Americans who opine about how bad the Iraq War was complain only about wasted money and US soldier lives. They don’t even think to mention Iraqis
Any time I ever have brought up Iraqi deaths, Syrian deaths, Libyan deaths, Vietnamese deaths, Korean deaths, etc. all Americans immediately roll their eyes and check out of the conversation. They won’t even go there, they won’t touch it with a ten foot pole
whataboutism!!!
We really are a nasty bunch of people. Americans, that is.
I hate being part of a villain faction.
Growing up, I tended to choose villain factions because I identified more with "the other". Now I see that the people who define "the other" are the real villains.
Dark Eldar are still ancap elves though.
Necrons are the cool old grandpas who know for a fact that all the other factions are full of shit
If I were to start today, I'd probably do a Genestealer Cult Soviet. But I have too much buy-in with my trust-fund elves that feed off others' suffering. I have bought and painted a soviet biker and given him a turban.
Their whiteness certainly helps them being perceived as human but whiteness is not enough. Nobody gave a shit about the people of the Donbass, despite them being just as white as Ukrainians.
The extra component that makes westoids so involved this time is that the bad guy making them flee is an official enemy of the state which makes the stenographers of power in mainstream media eager to portray the horrors of war as they instinctively understands how it's helping the geopolitical objectives of the state.
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Yes, "white" has broader implications than colorism
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:chomsky-yes-honey: Finally some good fucking worthy victims :chefs-kiss:
It is still wild to me that Slavs have been promoted to "White".
For bonus points there are actually a fair number of blond haired, blue eyed Iranians, which is another one that has always been weird to me vis a vis American race politics.
It's extra offensive to those who countries have been invaded in the past, like those in the Middle East or Vietnam or Korea, because this is what a war where civilian casualties are being avoided by the invading force looks like in the modern day and it's received a level of scorn orders of magnitude beyond what those wars received in the western media.
If Russia replicated the US's invasion of Iraq or Vietnam on Ukraine, there would be tens of thousands of people dead already. And yet could the media even be more negative and anti-Russian as it is now? They're already virtually saying that Putin's throne of skulls is being assembled in the middle of Moscow as we speak. Meanwhile, a single American drone strike in Yemen killed the same number of civilians that had been killed in the entire invasion in a week and there was basically nothing on that, because it's just example #849292 of America doing what it usually does.
You don't even have the go through the (very recent) historical record! America, in conjunction with Saudi Arabia, is literally doing an invasion of a nation 2500 miles south of Ukraine as I sit and type this out, and has killed over 150,000 people directly and more than double that indirectly, which is orders of magnitude above that which has been killed in Ukraine, and I can't think of a single fucking person on Reddit, or any bluechecks on Twitter, who give even the slightest fuck about it! Let alone put the Yemen flag in their profile, let alone create an entire propaganda campaign against the US and Saudi Arabia, let alone create a barrage of sanctions unlike anything that has been seen in our lives against them!
Even if you believe that the US's sins are instantly resolved the second it gets out of conflict because now it "knows better" and "won't repeat its mistakes", that still doesn't make the United States better, because they're slaughtering more civilians than Russia is right this very moment and has no plans to stop! It's maddening!
People have been posting on here liberals saying that Russians are gunning down entire towns like the My Lai Massacre, they're literally inventing Russian war crimes to accuse them of because they know deep down that the west's hands are absolutely soaked in blood so should be Russia's too. I have no doubt there's probably been some bad shit Russia has engaged it, maybe on purpose maybe by mistake, I don't know, but compared to america's wars, so far they've been trying to keep death tolls low.
This is the shit that pisses me off so much. If you mention that to people who fucking supported Iraq they will just pretend they cared about civilians or say "but what about THIS outrage, we may not be perfect but when we commit mass rape and murder....." it is the most depraved vile shit.
And with the video stuff, there where videos of Armenian civilians being beheaded during that war a year ago. They have no excuse. But they will never shed a tear, even when it is a bunch of Christians being killed, if said Christians dont "seem" white and/or are being killed by american allies
Or America's Kurdish allies being fed in to the maw of America's Turkish allies when the Kurds were no longer useful for fighting ISIS.
Liberals have been saying the most illogical crap. Apparently Putin wants to occupy all of Ukraine, while simultaneously wanting to level the cities so that he rules ... over a pile of rubble?
Do they genuinely think that a military whose strength is artillery couldn't cause much more devastation than it already has? As if they are trying their hardest but the powerful Nazis of Azov and Right Sektor are just too much for them to overcome.
As usual most of their accusations are projection to reify some kind of level playing field false equivalence in hopes that most people will just side with the home team
The way Russia dealt with Chechnya was bad. The Russian Federation does some bad shit. But it's still a rounding error compared to America's massacres since the end of the USSR.
First war with social media and easy video capture. I agree definitely.
With white people… lots of war footage from Syria out there
True, though less on the western people's radar than this, probably for similar reasons. I do wonder what the Iraq invasion would have been like if it happened in 2022, in this sense.
In Iraq I we had tearful testimony about how Iraqi soldiers were rampaging through Kuwaiti hospitals tearing premie babies out of incubators and murderering them. Propaganda has been fucking wild my whole life.
first european war against nato interest and actually noticeable material effects will do that.