If you have any useful resource links please tag me in a comment with the link:

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to this if you can, thank you.

Links

Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ukraine/@49.1162725,31.7993839,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d1d9c154700e8f:0x1068488f64010!8m2!3d48.379433!4d31.1655799?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1B1PLMhbHmG1aJ2-QNxHY1TksI6HlNhqF&ll=48.60777942568106%2C36.4496511633501&z=7

Leftist discussion threads:

https://hexbear.net/post/177324

https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/

https://lemmygrad.ml/

Twitter military updaters:

https://nitter.42l.fr/RWApodcast

https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary :kitty-cri:

https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet

https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike

https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael

https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518

https://www.youtube.com/c/DefensePoliticsAsia/videos

obvious disclaimers about taking all of them with tonnes of salt etc

Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413

Better war/propaganda analysis:

https://www.understandingwar.org

https://www.moonofalabama.org/

News updates:

https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html

Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html

YT/Video in Ukraine:

https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/videos

https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTe

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  • GuyWTriangle [none/use name]
    ·
    3 years ago

    The reason Americans keep comparing Hitler to Putin is because the average American's sum total of historical knowledge is Hitler, moon landing, 9/11, and then pick 2 of Civil War, George Washington, Great Depression, ancient Rome, Pearl Harbor, Ronald Reagan, Mayflower, Martin Luther King Jr

      • SoyViking [he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Certainly not, they know:

        • NATO good, USSR bad
        • NATO wins because good. Everyone is happy.
        • Smol bean eastern European countries join NATO because NATO good
        • Everyone is happy, except for Russia who is angry at NATO because Russia bad because Russia = USSR
        • Now NATO is the only thing that prevents Russia from taking over the entire world to do communism/genocide/iPhone Vuvuzela.
    • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      It's tricky because like, on the one hand, I generally sympathise with the idea that history teachers only have so much time in a day to try and hammer knowledge into students' brains and so you should pick the most important parts and not get bogged down in much more complicated matters; but obviously on the other hand, the information on those subjects you've listed are so woefully (and intentionally) inadequate and sometimes downright false that there's gotta be a way better system for doing this than the current one, even if school systems weren't completely underfunded and so many children weren't experiencing poverty that undermines their education.

      • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
        ·
        3 years ago

        I had a fairly decent public school education, I was fast tracked into higher level math, AP classes and whatnot.

        It's a fucking travesty the shit that was left out from history. We literally basically stopped at WWII in my Euro/US history classes and I don't feel like it's a coincidence. Honestly, they should make an entire class dedicated to modern world history, and it should be prioritized over a lot of the stupid shit they have you learn about US forefathers, but we know this would never happen.

        • SoyViking [he/him]
          ·
          3 years ago

          US history education is not the only thing that sucks. The only thing I remember from history education in the Danish school system is:

          • Vikings (cool)
          • Knights (they lived in castles)
          • King Christian IV built a lot of pretty buildings
          • Something about the French Revolution that was actually quite decent
          • WWII, the Germans started it because they wanted to kill all Jews. Then they occupied Denmark and you couldn't get coffee any more. Luckily the resistance movement (they were nationalists who loved liberal democracy, the word "communist" was never spoken) won with help from the British and the Americans.

          And that's about it. Nothing about the social upheavals of industrialisation, not a single word about labour history or colonialism or whatever happened outside of Denmark or Europe. Not a single word about the revolutions in Russia, Germany, China, Cuba or anywhere else. Not even anything about the very significant, and at times violent, struggle between conservative estate owners and liberal peasants in the 1800's that was extremely formative for Danish society. Nothing about how for centuries imbecile elites led the nation into one catastrophic war after the other.

          Liberal-conservative history education is a tool of indoctrination that actively constructs a mirage of a single unified nation, bound together by lofty patriotic sentiments.

          • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
            ·
            3 years ago

            Yeah, I think starting from a modern centric focus and moving backwards is the right way. You cover what's most important to the present and then try to teach stuff further back, and that way you prioritize relevant history. It would be whitewashed, but not teaching modern history at all is even worse.

            • LoudMuffin [he/him]
              ·
              3 years ago

              Yeah, I think starting from a modern centric focus and moving backwards is the right way.

              this is actually how I became interested in history. I remember falling asleep learning about early American history but now knowing about a lot of 20th century cold war shit makes the formative stuff so much less boring because it's like OK how did we get here

          • Sharon [none/use name]
            ·
            edit-2
            3 years ago

            That's when the story stopped. It's your job to write the rest young southerner!

        • LoudMuffin [he/him]
          ·
          3 years ago

          the bizarre thing is I remember skipping ahead in history books in school and they had sections on the 70's onward and I was always wondering why we stopped at WW2

          i remember skipping ahead in a later edition of textbook and seeing Obama and desert camo US soldiers lol

        • Sharon [none/use name]
          ·
          3 years ago

          My first college class was literally called "The World since 1945". It was taught by an expert on right wing extremism.

        • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Exactly, yeah.

          My experience is a little different because I went through the UK school system with its own set of idiosyncrasies but the same general lack of education on stuff that's like, actually important to understanding why the world is the way it is. I suppose they might think it's too "traumatic" for teenagers to learn about but, like, we're already taught that the Holocaust happened and that's basically peak trauma on a population if you're looking at anything in the last hundred years or so.

          It's been a while, but I was taught like... Romans (but not really the big picture, at least I never internalized it - it was news to me when I learned that there was three phases of Roman history from Mike Duncan and it wasn't just 'Julius Caeser comes out of the historical ether and invents the Roman Empire, and... look at how cool that Roman military equipment is!'), the Middle Ages in England specifically and maybe Europe generally, with absolutely nothing east of fucking Germany), the Great Fire of London, a bit of WW1, a fair amount of WW2, and then that was more or less where it stopped. Everything after that was treated as "and you know the rest!" - I absolutely did not know the rest and had to teach myself it. And also relearn most of the history I was already taught apart from the broadest strokes. And I don't even necessarily disagree that these subjects weren't important to learn, it's just it wasn't done very well, and it didn't cover much of the more recent history that would be important for people alive today to learn. Sure, WW2 wasn't that long ago, but so much has happened between then and now that you can't really extrapolate that much if you knew nothing about the events between then and now other than what the media has told you.

          And I was pretty interested in history and would have gone forward with it if I didn't already know that it was a fairly dead-end career path, I would hate to see the average knowledge that somebody who didn't give a shit about any of it. Sometimes I'm like "Wow, I don't know fucking anything about history, I couldn't tell you much about the Korean War or Middle Eastern history or ancient civilizations or the history of European rulers and kingdoms" but then I see somebody (either irl or in the dunk tank or similar places) with such a horrifyingly idiotic take on history that I suddenly feel quite good about myself.

      • voice_of_hermes [he/him,any]
        ·
        edit-2
        3 years ago

        Maybe if they stopped whitewashing the history, it would be interesting enough that kids would pay more attention and they could pick up the pace a bit.

      • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Any history I remember at all from school stops at 1945.

        One time in Modern Studies, while being taught that UK good/China bad, I asked if we would learn why China was like the way it was and got told "that's history" as though modern life was somehow disconnected from past events.

        I genuinely think they want people to think:

        1. Cavemen
        2. Romans
        3. Knights
        4. Industrial revolution
        5. World Wars
        6. ???????
        7. Modern day in which everything is good and fine actually