The next five year plan - Building a really big school locker sufficient to house the entire gamer population.
I heard about the guy who have the biggest locker on planet, he's called Davy Jones.
Honestly Valve should do a purge on this shit. People who brigade tag things like this get banned from using Steam community features.
Those libertarians could never lift a finger for anything like this.
Just like the two genders, male and political.
Or the two sexual orientations, straight and political.
When you're used to privellage equality feels like persecution.
I see the "politics" and "political simulator"(!!!) on its steam page, that's just run of the mill multi fps shooter. Do they even moderate the tags there?
I got quite a lot of open fash comments removed from steam forums so they do moderate them somewhat at least, but idk if any authors of them got banned.
You gotta report them and it takes a bit of time but there is some moderation that happens on steam. At least enough to piss off some fashy gamers
This is probably going to piss off people who actually want to play political sim and games about politics.
There's an argument to be made that GG was responsible for neo-fascism blooming in the west. In the very least it was a big push to getting Trump elected and establishing the alt-right.
I will make that argument. I was there, Gandalf, 3,000 years ago, when the strength of gamers fail. Looking back, we were 150% watching white male gamers being radicalized in to neo-fascism, but I at least didn't recognize the scope or importance of what was happening.
It's not a very unpopular argument, Steve Bannon even had his part in G*merGate.
Even if GG isn't responsible, Bannon and others like him were absolutely trying to spread fascism through gamer outrage well before GG really started
It says something about the state of America that you can't get people to care about politics by talking about health care, mass incarceration, housing prices, etc. But tell them woke is why vidja games are bad and they're ready to go for fascism.
Especially wild when the downfall of gaming is a ham fisted example of the natural conclusion of capitalism.
Turns out when giant corporations just try to charge you a subscription for the same thing every year instead of improving or developing the product because Gamers pre order every piece of shit they wrap in foil paper you get shitty over priced cookie cutter games.
Clearly what would solve that is being more racist.
And beyond that it's created a persistent, ongoing cultural shift in how media is viewed and evaluated. And it was 10 years ago, a lot of those gamegaters who were teenagers and young adults are edging in to their 30s, in to real big kid jobs where they have some degree of influence.
Isn't JD Vance on record whining about The Last Jedi on social media
Walking out of the theater my opinion was just a resounding "blah" and in conjunction with Rogue One it killed my interest in seeing any more new Star Wars stuff
Yeah, those were the more interesting bits but then those were just walked back or resolved before the movie was even over
Then you had the insanely convoluted hyperdrive chase premise forming the backbone of the entire movie, the sidequest casino planet and the movie's opening cutting from yo momma jokes to characters sacrificing themselves
That whole chase made no sense, the First Order could've sent a bunch of fighters to attack them, since they'd be much faster than the capital ships they were chasing, or just send in ships from other nearby systems to intercept them (unless their entire fleet was chasing them, which'd be nonsensical in its own way).
At least there was great dialog like ”We are the spark that'll light the fire that'll burn the First Order down”
I gave the new trilogy a fair shot. It was just not very good sadly. (Blue haired women had nothing to do with that though)
Both democrats and republicans are fascists. Trump is no more a fascist than Biden
Ukraine war and Palestinian genocide are both on Biden, and more people died of Covid under Biden than Trump
my point is that America didn't just recently "become fascist" through some gamer social reactionary tantrum. America has always been a fascist state and was doing medical experiments on black people against their will and running slave penal colonies for hundreds of years. Westerners really don't understand that America didn't just "become fascist" it IS fascist at its core and always has been, and stuff like Gamergate are just tiny symptoms not causes
I really don't like it when people try to blame everything on Trumpism and act like it's an anomaly and we were less fascist beforehand. It's even done here, and in the "99% hitler vs 100% hitler" memes. Hitler was 50% as fascist as America. We are worse and more successful at being evil and fascist. Hitler looked to us for inspiration and failed to reach our level.
There's an argument to be made that GG was responsible for neo-fascism blooming in the west.
This comment from SorosFootSoldier was the one I primarily took issue with. Naive, idealist and really lib-coded comment if you ask me, and then you adding on agreeing and saying that GG caused Trump (which caused Fascism) is what made me mention how silly this entire "analysis" was. Biden is equally as fascist as Trump, all the anti-GG libs who are now zionists are equally as much fascists as their GG counterparts (See: Brianna Wu)
at some point you are going to need to reconcile with reality that some gamers getting mad about boobies online and harassing some journalists is absolutely nothing in the world historical scale. You also can't respond to the "anti-fascist" anti-GG side becoming all pro-genocide libs now who are also fascists.
I wasn't just saying "material conditions" I'm pointing out exactly how both of your analysis is flawed because its saying that we became fascist or became more fascist, which never happened.
a nudge towards WHAT?!? TRUMP = BIDEN. They are the same. They nudged nothing nowhere, America went from 100% fascist to 100% fascist.
i mean just come out and say you are a lesser evil electoralist and you support the DNC if that's what you're getting at
Your entire argument is that GG made the US fascist, and putting in red fascist judges instead of blue fascist judges is a huge thing we should care about. You westerners really just don't understand how evil ALL of your politicians are, going from one piece of shit to another isn't a huge terrible apocalypse it's business as usual
I think it’s all just theater anyway and it doesn’t matter, the fascist uniparty of war will continue onwards either way.
Just funny to see a place with a bunch of Marxists upvote such idealist hyperventilating lib nonsense like “GG literally caused the west to become fascist” which is so disconnected from history and reality and any materialist lens that it becomes absurd
Fuck Biden but the reason more people died under Biden is because Trump literally encouraged the spread of it with culture war bullshit until thousands of people were dying every day at the start of bidens term.
Fuck him and he didn't do shit to stop it but getting a car up to 100 mph, jumping out of the drivers door and then blaming the person who grabbed the wheel for the crash seems shitty, even if the person that grabbed the wheel dumped it straight into the ditch.
I hate Biden and don't think he's any better than Trump but I think there's a bit of a tendency to overcorrect and act like Trump actually isn't that bad, which even if its lib shit the orange man is in fact bad.
stop using nonsensical metaphors to understand reality. Look at concrete actions and results of those actions.
Biden is perpetrating a genocide right now against Palestinians, and started a war against Russia that has claimed over a million lives. Biden's policies if he were president in 2020 would be roughly identical to Trump's policies, and even less people would follow guidelines because there wouldn't be an anti-Trump culture war to make Liberals want to wear masks to show their moral virtues. Covid would have been swept under the rug even more quietly, with less pushback from the population.
It's not that Trump is "better", that's not the point. The point is countering the radlib tendency among the left to overly freak out about "Trumpism" and "Fascism" as if it's some anomaly and every blame can be placed on Trump's shoulders. He's the scapegoat, and when you repeat this kind of naive idealist analysis that could only be done by like a 20-year old or younger, you are playing into the DNC narrative of Trumpwashing. THAT is the reason more hardline leftists downplay Trump being to blame for everything, because the squishy radlib left are trying to place all the blame on GOP/Trump, which is a narrative being fed to them by the DNC.
stop using nonsensical metaphors to understand reality. Look at concrete actions and results of those actions.
Their metaphor was pretty solid. Trump created the conditions for Covid that Biden inherited and didn't fix. It was a group effort to slaughter all those people, even though most of them died once Biden took over just due to timing.
That's a pretty one to one metaphor. I literally started the comment with "fuck biden" I'm not trying to carry water from him.
I agree the dems aren't better on any foreign policy issues and are trying to outland the chuds from the right on immigration but complaining that people are "try8ng to counter the tendency to freak out about fascism" is bad and is exactly what libs did for a year when they said everybody has to repect the office of president and people were being dramatic when they called Trump and Republicans fascist.
I live in a really rural area of a supposedly progressive state. There's half a dozen houses within a 30 minute drive of me proudly advertising they're ready to start rounding up anybody who doesn't support Trump. I'm not worried about "overstaying the threat of fasicsm"
Historically that's how fascism gets into power.
There's definitely a tendency to go past "the dems are also fascist" which I agree with into "the dems are actually worse than republicans" which is dangerous.
Democrats never proudly tell me how they'd like to burn down any house with a gay pride flag on it. I worked for a chud designing septic systems. He'd always talk about how we'll build the septic system above the well of any gay people or democrats so their water would be poisoned and they'd die.
Libs weren’t respecting the office, they were freaking out and screaming fascism the entire 4 years. You and I have a very different recollection of events
You're drawing a line between radlibs and libs.
All the elected officials were talking about how it deligitimizes claims of fascism to call them that meanwhile you had Goodwin coming out and saying his rule didn't apply.
Standard libs were still in the "when they go low we go high" mindset at the beginning and I've been saying for years the civility fetishist were getting them all killed.
I guess you're right we do have very different experiences except I know for a fact mine reflects reality sooo....
incorrect, especially after January 6th and Charlottesville. Democrat elected officials were calling Trump a traitor, a Russian asset, a fascist, a dictator, saying he was going to destroy democracy. Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi, AOC, Bernie Sanders, all of them were and continue to say this hyperventilating nonsense. They were actually saying the words "concentration camps" at the border, which suddenly became fine once Biden got into office btw. The fascism is alive and well, as always.
Goodwin's Law is that comparisons to Nazis are not apt, him coming and out and saying it didn't apply was him saying it was fair game to call Trump a Nazi. This is another example of the hyperventilation. Bill Maher was having 1 hour specials about how Trump was alt right and fascist. MSNBC and Maddow are on the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA express, and have called Trump an open traitor many many times who threatens democracy and all that.
Go listen to the podjons pods during the trump years, it was all hands on deck this is a fucking emergency for democracy 24/7 insanity the whole time. They were freaking the fuck out calling him a fascist and more.
I guess you're right we do have very different experiences except I know for a fact mine reflects reality sooo....
You could have not just said this smug passive aggressive horseshit. In fact, mine reflects reality and yours is only talking about centrist republicans.
bill maher, pelosi, schiff, schumer, maddow, MSNBC aren't "lived experiences"
they are official party propaganda outlets that explicitly pushed these narratives, it's not a matter of opinion.
One thing that struck me about the Jan 6 riot is that, especially compared to the 2017 unite the right rally, everyone was fucking old. My read on that is that Facebook and it’s corresponding propaganda style has been much more fertile ground for activating reactionaries IRL than 4chan and Reddit has. There’s definitely millions and millions of gamer chuds, but they seem over represented online and underrepresented in voting booths, protests and riots
Yea the downside of trying to specifically radicalized antisocial NEETs is that they're pretty useless at anything other than calling people slurs from the safety of their troll cave.
I was thinking about how while it’s nothing new that reactionary groups attempt to co-opt youth subcultures, this one is maybe their most successful attempt of all time in terms of both per capita conversion and raw numbers.
This game has looked like a complete dud that no one asked for to me from everything I've seen, but of course the vast majority of gamer complaints have seemed to be just frothing about WOKE DEI ESG
I recently realized that the vast majority of content that this crowd whines about isn’t very good on its own merits. For example, The Acolyte, which was middling at best from what I watched, got it hard from the Star Wars reactionary fans while Andor, which has an only slightly less diverse cast, did not. This indicates to me that while these people are sincere racists and probably really do believe that diverse casting signals a conspiracy against the white race, they also lack conviction and will fall silent if the treats are tasty enough.
what makes it even worse is that hollywood execs know when their movies/tv shows are shaping up to be total shit, and they purposefully lean into the culture war stuff to try and cause controversy and get free marketing. They also love using diverse casts as a shield, when they know they have a total stinker they think to themselves "well let's at least make it filled with didactic liberal moralism" to shield themselves from criticism. That way when they get negative reviews for their absolute trash movie they can blame it on the reactionary review bombers, when it would have gotten bad reviews anyway
It’s always been like this. I remember YouTube Skeptiks losing their mind when the all-female Ghostbusters was a flop.
Even if it was the greatest game in existence...there are like five of these on Steam that are free to play.
They're asking for the equivalent of $40 for this? lol, nope.
Doesn't Sony have like 5 more live service games in the barrel
Guess they didn't learn from Destruction AllStars. Apparently the servers for that game might still be up, somehow.
I think they know what they're doing and their strategy is "launch and launch and launch until one sticks" because one sticking will make them enough to recoup the investment into the 10 that failed. These live service games are the holy grail IF they can get one to stick.
Helldivers 2 this year basically proved the validity of that approach for them.
I really wish the vast majority of "hero shooters" were just co-op games. Sweaty PvP is so done for me. That's part of the reason I like Warframe and Wayfinder and other "hero" style games. I like saving the day with the homies. These Concord characters all look fine to me, I think they'd make for fun co-op heroes
Exactly dude, "hero" games I think get a bad rap cause they are all just Overwatch-clones or Overwatch adjacent (which is reductive but you know what I mean). I think the "hero" genre could do really do well to step out of "pushing the cart" or "holding the control point". Like with most genres there is a lot of room to explore if you took even a step and a half outside the existing boundaries.
That's the thing that gets me mad, is that while they tell you they have a story, there is no meaningful way for you interact with that narrative. Or even be told that narrative in a way that makes sense because you're always trying to secure objective or whatever. Maybe a little enviorment storytelling here or some special voice lines there, but in the game itself there is usually no real way to interact with the game world's story in so many hero shooter games. Yeah there is "lore" but there usaully little story.
It's always a bummer to me, I feel like so much of Blizzard games (and a lot of "AAA™®© games) have utterly squandered creative potential. MEGACORP production and creative products are truly a nightmare mixture.
One of the people that put Blizzard on the map to begin with, the one that was a primary developer for Diablo and Diablo 2, left the company to make Torchlight elsewhere
Alas, Torchlight. A wonderful game, one of my favorite games to just boot up click on monsters. It's a good-ass game (at least the first two are), and it deserves a better fate than it got, as most good games do.
The corpos left at Blizzard tweeted "FUCK THAT LOSER" in response to the developer's parting criticisms of the old company.
Giving anyone who makes more that $50K a year a tweet account was a mistake.
How's Wayfinder so far? Heard it kinda had a rocky start but I'm interested in the art style and gameplay loop
I dig it. It's a cartoon-y Saturday morning show about good guys fighting bad guys. I'm a sucker for that thing. Love the artstyle, the mechanics are fun and the looter-shooter-y isn't groundbreaking but it nails the fundamentals. New gear feels exciting which is all I ask for.
I think it’s worth the price, and it’s an “offline” game. You don’t need to connect to the internet or anything like that. It’s all there right out of the box. It’s still “early access” but most of my ~30 hours have been enjoyable and bug free
Political SIM FPS???
Only one of those I can think of is JFK reloaded
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(desert-skinned beige people with 80% brown hair is much better)
cool looking characters, like nathan drake. joel from the last of us. booker from bioshock infinite. you know, that kinda guy. an adult virgin's idea of what a 'cool looking' guy is
These are the subset of gamers that piss me off to no end... The early access game review bombing for poor optimization numbnuts are their own kind of special, but these folks just thrive on hatred...
Every fucking steam discussion has a "WoKe GaMe?" Post...
Reich wing propaganda working it's way through society... We can thank Steve Bannon partially for wanting to aim for indoctrinating "rootless white male gamers"
The early access game review bombing for poor optimization
imo don't do early access if you don't want real criticism, it was supposed to be the whole reason you release in EA in the first place not just as a marketing hype generator
Why is fucking Sony releasing games in early access to begin with
I don't mean the so-called "AAA" dev/publisher early access that is like 4 days before release (read: exploiting those with little patience.)
I mean the steam, often indie dev, "early access" that runs for a year plus because they're using the early access to address bugs and to help optimize.
to help optimize.
I think I've lost the plot, how would they know they need to optimize if nobody were to tell them? Obviously there are good ways and bad ways to write criticism, but again if you release a game early its going to happen.
Pretty much what you said. There are good and bad ways to say it. Review bombing and flipping out in the discussions is not the way, those are the people I was referring to though in my initial comment. Unfortunately there are way too many of them out there. :/
Early access has been abused so much that devs are mostly forced to use EA in order to make a soft release.
And not all indie devs are saints, why should you be able to charge any money for a literal alpha prototype? We are now paying to be not even beta but alpha testers?
Again EA abuse completely destroyed the software developement foundations behind most indie devs. Way too many of them work on their game for a year and then release a crappy alpha.
20 years ago the idea would be laughed at, today we pay money for any half decent prototype with slightly better than Unity Asset store models. That is the lowest barrier of entry and its understandable people have become cynical.
Of course there are EA success stories obviously, from single devs that get it right to big "indie" studios but those are the exception.
I think there are also quite a few devs that hide behind the "oh its still early access, there is still time" to hide behind their incompetence and/or unwillingless to fix bugs. Sometimes they'll keep making promises of new content, adding more and more stuff and never looking back at their engine bugs etcs as a result EA is not a guarantee of bug free release even if "done right". The devs may simply prioritize content over bugs.
Maybe my references are skewed, but I remember Minecraft's alpha was $5, beta was $10, and the full release I think was $20 or something. Which both seemed really fair price-wise but also made sense as to making buying a game early appealing because you're paying less for it; it's not an act of charity to buy a game in early access. Now they seem to be charging full price and are basically going "uwu, i'm a smol indie-dev" and asking for people to donate money and faith to someone they don't know because they're petit-bourgeois.
This comment style with the gifs and pictures just wedged into the text is so fucking ugly and cringy. It's a quarter-step above comments that are 90% emojis.
This comment style where you're an asshole is pathetic and reeks of insecurity.
To be fair on most apps they look a lot bigger than on web it's not great. Afaict they're not standard markdown so clients just render them as full size images
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Ah, I've seen that with Sync too. Still, that's a client issue, not an emoji issue.
Huh really I assumed emoji were just a css hack by hexbear, not used anywhere else. Is there a spec somewhere i can point the app developer to?
So weird they picked this to hate on, cause it seems like a bit of an Overwatch clone, which also shares a lot in common with League of Legends.
I know Overwatch has a few, but I played a lot of League and there are plenty of non-vanilla characters.
These people just hate for hate’s sake.
They latched on to it because it's total dogshit.
It's a Sony title that didn't crack 700 concurrent players on its first day.
Now there's two possible reasons for this, one is that it's a shitty looking generic paid pvp hero game. There's literally half a dozen better free options with already existing communities and player bases.
The other possibility is that it's because there's characters in it that aren't straight white males.
It would be like saying that the reason Steven Segal movies aren't popular is because it stars a straight white guy and not because it's a dogshit product by a dogshit person that looks worse than half a dozen free readily available options.
It's a Sony title that didn't crack 700 concurrent players on its first day.
Holy molly. You gotta wonder how many of these failed "games-as-a-service" attempts are black spots on these companies balance sheet that they cover with profits from actually good single player games, and yet they keep trying
I mean they also had Helldivers 2 this year so clearly the games as a service model can produce hits big enough to cover for the misses
It's because it's shit and an easy target as a result.
Anything that's bad is because of le woke. They ignore it in anything good.
I sincerely wish the sight of these groups causes intense psychic backlash and physical pain. This will be extra funny considering the vast majority of the world is non white. Maybe this explains why they're adamant to vote fuckers that wanna accelerate climate catastrophe especially since it will hit the global south the hardest first.
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