harriet tubman never held public office!!!!
the humble gandhi since civ 1:
plus civ 7 is purposefully adding a bunch of leaders that weren't officially national leaders, people like Da Vinci or Benjamin Franklin. It makes added sense since you play as 3 different civilizations throughout the game and your civilization changes but your leader stays the same.
So does each civilization have multiple leaders, since Harriet Tubman and Benjamin Franklin are both American?
yes pretty sure most do.
There's ~10 civilizations for each era, ~30 total. I think there will be like 45+ leaders
Isn’t Amaterasu in at least one of the Civ games as a national leader for Japan? If they can have a literal god as a leader then this checks out.
The US doesn't deserve to have someone as heroic as Harriet Tubman to represent it.
luckily, Civ 7 is kinda doing the Humankind thing and separating the leaders from the civs to some extent
meaning, Harriet Tubman doesn't have to lead the yankoid shitheap afaik
I know we're getting into more Paradox than Civ here, but I'd like to see it as, if John Brown or Nat Turner succeed, then she's the leader of the new America.
Literally everything Gamergate dipshits said about "SJWs" was projection:
- They're ridiculously sensitive and easy to offend.
- They want to force the entire industry to conform to their politics.
- They're single-minded obsessives who go nuclear the moment a game fails a single one of their myriad purity tests.
- A large portion of them are tourist outsiders invading the hobby who see it as nothing but a tool to push their political agenda.
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I've played 2, 3, 5 and 6. Never played Civ 1 or Civ 4.
My biggest gripe is not enough USSR leaders
never played 4
big oof, purists still really pump it up and play it (i've seen people who consider 5 a disgrace and 6 an abomination lmao)
4 would be great with all the mods and shit, but the early 3d graphics shit is ugly and i dont say this lightly.
the awkward move from beautiful 2d to disgusting 3d was a growth period i dont want to revisit.
It's always interesting to see different perspectives. I think the graphics of Civ IV are quite charming and I play it to this day.
to each their own. I think it's because I played a lot of these in my awful teenage years, like uh... Sacrifice, Empire Earth, Soul Reaver etc.
Im glad you can enjoy it though!
Yeah that’s why the graphics to 6 feel like such a step in the wrong direction to me. You have this elegant and beautiful design with 5 and then make 6 look like a mobile game?
I played a ton of Civ 5 as a kid/teenager, Beyond Earth was the first game I got burned on buying, played some Civ 6 and like some things like the climate change and natural disasters.
beyond earth is actually decent now with the xpac, i think it's underrated
4 is good. Probably my favorite in the series. Refined almost all of the jank out of the early series, hadn't yet introduced the all-new jank that started in 5.
le illiterate
she was a slave from the 1800s who are these morons dunking on
Same. Banned for allegedly violent rhetoric against TERFS. Apparently my account was not reinstated after Musk liberated the platform for free speech lol. Now I have a permanent redirect to the proxy site via a browser plugin for when I want to see what twittoids are yapping about.
Why is it always the leaders remembered as heroes who are in games? They should add some of the bad leaders as well, Nicholas II, the most inbred of the Habsburgs, Gorbachev, Liz Truss, all the kings with names like "Hunger" and "the Mad".
they all have to be pretty ancient. Can't really have Hitler or Trump or Obama without enraging a bunch of the playerbase
If they put Obama in the next Zelda game I'm gunna' be pissed.
uhhhh let me be kokiri... if you like your deku nut, you can keep it
Sometimes I remember I'm not entirely unintelligent. Reading these comments really reminds you of the utter smoothness of most westerners brains
It’s even a joke I have with myself. One second this is my internal monologue:
“Oh come on, Zinn. You should feel lucky material conditions happened the way they did where you found the left before fascism found you! You’re not immune to propaganda, you got lucky it’s not your big brain!”
Reads a comment section
“On second thought, maybe it is your big brain that allows you to handle the truth.”
Ok, Harriet Tubman is great, but I'm still not playing as Amerikkka when
is right there.leaders are detached from civs this go round, so you could have china ruled by tubman
Oh wait, that's awesome. Sounds pretty cool, can't wait to pirate it.
probably could and add a 20 page manifesto about wokeism or whatever
oh no that's too much for me, I'll leave this one link unclicked thank you very much
why don't you all click this link instead and be led to an absolute banger: Sons of Kemet - My Queen is Harriet Tubman
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
I like Tuabman and I like diversity in my games but I hate the implication that the USA is sufficiently not fascist and white supremacist to have her as a leader.
in the civilization universe, all civilizations are a blank slate that start during the early agrarian era. They don't yet pick an ideology or colonize others or do anything at that point. Also, in civ 7 she can be the leader of any civilization, leaders aren't bound to specific civs
That's how I justify it to myself at least, it falls apart upon any introspection but that's how it goes with a silly 4x game with hammers and beakers
"fascism is just more industrial resource and nothing else!!!" i do not like modern civ games
I agree it should have some type of penalties, but it’s hard to implement fascism if you aren’t willing to include dirty historical realities like genocide and ethnic cleansing and colonialism.
I understand why Civ doesn’t want to allow naziboos to roleplay as a genocidal maniac in their game
Then we will lose communism as a playable option. The moment Firaxis removes fascism the “both sides” whining will be overwhelming
Please Firaxis, add John Brown next. Then Malcolm X in the season pass.
new civ announced
I don't wanna play these games anymoreit's part of the culture war now
I don't wanna play these games anymorespeak for yourself, civ rocks and it's been 8.5 years since the last one
fuck civ 7 I'm not playing a game made by people who didn't kill a CEO
Big news for people with enough time and money to play civ 7
"oh but if i said hitler should be a leader in civ then i would be called a nazi. ok i see how it is. still waiting for my white privilege check"
Look, I understand that people are upset, but she's crossing her arms in the picture. We haven't had a chance to oggle her cans. She could have F cups under there.
now we're really getting into the big questions, folks. RELEASE THE TWINS
