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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict
Add to this if you can, thank you.
Links
Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ukraine/@49.1162725,31.7993839,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d1d9c154700e8f:0x1068488f64010!8m2!3d48.379433!4d31.1655799?hl=en
Leftist discussion threads:
https://hexbear.net/post/177324
https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/
https://lemmygrad.ml/
Twitter military updaters:
https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary
https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet
https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike
https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael
https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518
Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413
Better war/propaganda analysis:
https://www.understandingwar.org
https://www.moonofalabama.org/
News updates:
https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html
Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html
YT/Video in Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/videos
https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTe
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Ukraine losing the war is going to be a huge surprise to many people after so many made-up numbers and articles talking about how "Russia is just hours from running out of supplies due to logistical issues!",or non-sense about how they're all "demoralized conscripts who don't know what they're doing".
This war has had the dumbest propaganda ever. Have you noticed how some of the POWs have been dressed up as if they're homeless (as in half of their uniform is the right size, the other half is ill-fitting, wearing a WW2-era helmet, etc)? Brilliant on Ukraine's part I suppose.
A lot of the POW's just look like that.
DPR/LPR fighters are using a mix of old soviet equipment and modern russian uniforms. The "WW2" helmet is just an SSh68.
Here is a poll showing that only 26 percent of Canadians polled think Russia is going to 'win' the war https://abacusdata.ca/canadians-support-ukraine/ ctrl-f 'MOST STILL OPTIMISTIC ABOUT OUTCOME' to see the relevant section.
Although it should be noted that this poll seems to define Russian victory as having occupied all of Ukraine, which of course was never the aims of Russia.
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Therefore all those dead civilians were worth it in the end, instead of just surrendering and saving thousands of lives by living the way ukraine did pre-2014.
Because nazis use the "scorched earth" tactic, if they're going to the lose war anyway might as well throw it all in.
The war could have ended within hours, just give Russia DNR/LNR and declare Ukraine NATO-neutral. Actually the war could have never started if they upheld either the First or Second Minsk agreement...
Losing a war to an enemy you know has no intention of permanent occupation is a great recruiting tool for Nazis.
"Its not about the war that was fought, its about the friends we made along the way. Anyway, here's why Ukranian Nazis actually aren't as bad as you think.":very-intelligent:
Someone on Tiktok posted a picture from media of a Ukrainian Nazi Soldier wearing an honest to god sonnenrad on his uniform because they wanted to confirm that the media had just used a picture of a guy wearing actual Nazi symbols as their lead for an article about Ukrainian refugees.
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So am I alone on this site in thinking that Ukraine probably will "win" this war? Not to say Ukraine won't be devastated, but I think it's gonna end with Russia not holding Ukraine (outside of maybe parts of Donbas). Akin to Vietnam v America.
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RT has reported that Russia would settle for a peace that involved recognition of the Donbass republics, Crimea and legal guarantees of Ukrainian neutrality. I don't think they're going to take more Ukrainian territory.
Zelensky's party on the other hand has proposed an arrangement where Russia, the US and Turkey signs a treaty to safeguard Ukraine and has more or less given up on NATO membership.
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I think that scenario is highly unlikely. The Russian story has always been that they're just there to protect the Donbass, not to occupy the entirety of the Ukraine. I know big states are full of shit but even propaganda has to have some internal consistency in order to work. On the more practical side of things, Russia doesn't want to fight an extremely well-supplied insurgency and will be happy to limit the scope of their more permanent presence.
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Russia would be the third party in the room, so no missile bases for the yanks in the Ukraine.
It’s still surprising to me that everyone thinks Putin wants to take over all of Europe
But he's the new Hitler! He has to be, Hitler is the baddest baddie I know and Putin must be just as bad.
He seems "craazzyyyy" because this is the most publicized war by far, but the last 8+ years leading up to it have gotten almost no coverage so it appears as if Putin just woke up one day and went insane.
Wait so when libs realize Putin isn’t all the propaganda made him out to be they’ll also think maybe hitler isn’t all he was made out to be :yea:
:geordi-no: Western propaganda is bullshit
:geordi-yes: Ackshually Hitler was not as bad as they say
but who was in those trains, and where were they going? 🤔
He didn't even keep those trains running on time.
Did you also see that lady on danish TV who was supposedly an expert on geopolitics, who said in complete seriousness, that the Z-symbol on the russian equipment meant that they were destined for Westward expansion? As in, within a few weeks he will take Poland and Germany?
Only the propagandists. The realist, like the retired military said that Putin probably neutralize Ukraine west and take east. That’s all
Rename it Galicia and move on, this message brought to you by HOI
This is definitely the goal, it's not too unreasonable either (in terms of imperial goals). I also think that a demilitarization and gutting of the Ukrainian military will be on the table. Specifically some sort of tribunal for the crimes committed by Azov and the fascists in Donbass over the past decade.
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I don't think Russia's strategic goal is to "Hold Ukraine". Russia wins of Ukraine is prevented from joining NATO and loses control of the breakaway republics in the East.
Not every war is a war of conquest, or an American style adventure in mass murder and mismanagement.
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The stupid thing is that all we had to do was split NATO in two, with Western Europe being its own thing and Visegrad becoming its own military alliance explicitly not under our nuclear umbrella.
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I mean losing 5% of your military (not saying they lost 5% necessarily) is a pretty big fucking deal. Couple that with sanctions and what seems to be a growing anti-war sentiment back home... I think he's got maybe another month or two til pressure is so great he's gotta dip out. And I think Ukraine can hold out that long.
5% of their deployed forces. They only deployed 10-15% of their total military. So they have lost 0.5-0.75% of their military power, and none of their best stuff.
Also that 5% that has been removed from battle isn’t necessarily dead, it would also include all damaged vehicles and injuries.
I thought the Ghost of Kyiv destroyed their airforce and the Orca of Odessa sank their entire fleet?
Also, it’s the fucking pentagon. If they’re saying Russia lost 5%, then the actual number is like 2-4%
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I will say, that's a lot less than I thought. I thought 5% sounded high, but I would've guessed like 2-3%
Losing 5% of your military is well within the scope of acceptable loses. I'm told that in a "Real" war, which this certainly is not, losing 30% of your troops to achieve an objective is considered acceptable. In a pitched war between near parity powers like the US and China you'd probably be looking at losing more than 100% of your military personnel over the course of the war, meaning everyone in the infantry is either crippled or killed and gets replaced by fresh troops.
Spoken Ukrainian overlaps 75% with spoken Russian. Even if they do decide to annex all of Ukraine it won't be like the US blundering around in Afghanistan. It's more like Chicago invading and occupying Indiana.
Maybe you’re right. It’s pretty impossible to defeat insurgency tactics.
But i don’t think the Ukrainians are willing to go to the lengths the Vietnamese had to go to to win.
Defeating an insurgency is easy. Just exterminate the population. Worked great for the various European powers. Australia is a good example of using the extermination of the entire enemy population to end an ongoing insurgency.
I think you're in the minority of stated opinions here at least. I don't know exactly what I think is going to happen. It will certainly not be a success for the people of Ukraine or the masses of the world.
In 40 years maybe, Russia is by and large a petrol state so once we don’t need it anymore that state is doomed. (Also flooding in China will require its population to relocate to a suddenly warmer Arctic assuming anthrax in the soil doesn’t spread