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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict
Add to this if you can, thank you.
Links
Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ukraine/@49.1162725,31.7993839,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d1d9c154700e8f:0x1068488f64010!8m2!3d48.379433!4d31.1655799?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1B1PLMhbHmG1aJ2-QNxHY1TksI6HlNhqF&ll=48.60777942568106%2C36.4496511633501&z=7
Leftist discussion threads:
https://hexbear.net/post/177324
https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/
https://lemmygrad.ml/
Twitter military updaters:
https://nitter.42l.fr/RWApodcast
https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary :kitty-cri:
https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet
https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike
https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael
https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518
https://www.youtube.com/c/DefensePoliticsAsia/videos
obvious disclaimers about taking all of them with tonnes of salt etc
Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413
Better war/propaganda analysis:
https://www.understandingwar.org
https://www.moonofalabama.org/
News updates:
https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html
Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html
YT/Video in Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/videos
https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTe
Previous megathreads
!news@hexbear.net RSS Feed https://hexbear.net/feeds/c/news.xml
so like, is this us reaching the "first they came for the communists" moment? Is that happening now? Or was that after the Nazis official rise to power
I'm already convinced that events so far have sealed europes fate to be set ablaze by nazis once more
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and also that there is explicitly an international effort of fascists making their way to Ukraine to join the fighting, we're witnessing the birth of the fascist european equivalent of ISIS, Unite The Right but for the international stage and with the full and uncritical backing of all western media
So we have a recipe for armed, organized, networks of fascists across europe and the west who we are arming to the teeth and allowing to forge revolutionary bonds with one another through the war
This is the biggest propaganda victory for fascists since, I don't even know
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PCP is one of the few European communist parties that has really remained based and intact.
"You're a dangerous Neo-Nazi on parole for weapons charges but it's okay if you go to another state to fight for a Nazi insurgency. Just try not to kill any minorities while you're over there. Have fun! Send us a post card!"
Luckily the Ukrainians don't care about foreign fighters and most of them are getting bodied or running to Poland.
I've never known fascists to be great critical thinkers, I don't think this will put a single one off, aside from those that, happily, will get domed
Well fascists ideologically follow this weird thing called "ethno-supremacism" where they think anyone that isn't a part of their in-group is worth less than the gum sticking to their shoes.
They also don't really believe in words having true meaning, and everything is open to change and "that's just the way it is now." Its not like "whiteness" is even a thing, but that doesn't seem to stop em
All it would take is for this new wave of fascism to center on "Western Supremacy" in a more general sense to open up a big tent, before of course narrowing to a teeny pyramid of those pure enough
You are getting mad at the Liberal scratchers instead of the Liberals, who are always waiting for the right moment to become fascist
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Me: when you scratch a liberal a fascist bleeds
You: Yikes, better never scratch liberals then. Just leave them alone forever and let them get their way. If anyone scratches them it’s the scratchers fault for creating a fascist.
What the fuck are you talking about?
You are blaming Russia for making “more fascists” with their actions. They are not. They are only tearing off the paper thin facade that disguises the western fascists and revealing them for what they always have been
I am not blaming russia lmao.
I am lamenting the likely material consequences of this action/ the geopolitical situation and pushing back against the narrative that akshully russia is the vanguard against fascisms!!!
How you think that means I'm saying we should leave the libs be lest we should scratch them, seriously, what the fuck comments are you reading here??
Are we playing the liberal finger pointing who's fault is it game, or are we doing materialism? pick one and let me know, thanks
You have to know nothing about Maidan Ukraine to think this is making the Nazi situation worse globally. Worse than a fascist state foothold and recruiting ground for the world fascist movement? If Russia did nothing and allowed Ukraine to continue festering and metastizing and importing and training and funding global neonazism then that would be materially worse
Tens of thousands of Nazis are getting destroyed as we speak, including the only official fascist state on Earth.
It is NATOs fault entirely for funding and arming these Nazis
we agree on this, everything else is :jesse-wtf: not even resembling my comments
I'm disengaging, please stop replying to me. Feel free to totally own me by editing your comment
disengagement noted.
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Russia destroyed ISIS and crushed that organization when they flocked to Syria, they can do the same here. This is the trash taking itself out
I will choose to not trust or count on russia, because uhhhhh...
but hey that's nice at least
I’m sure you were saying the same thing during the Syrian Civil War and calling Assad a fascist and Russia an imperialist
If there’s one thing you can count on Russia for its military destruction of its enemies in wartime
Mostly missed this one due to not being politically involved or educated at the time, so, no
Well it's a good thing their enemies are and always will only be the enemies of the proletariat, and not of their imperial government, right?
Right?
Let me spoil the ending for you because the tankies were right about Syria and have always been right: This both sides nonsense is childish. The anti-NATO, anti-terrorist side is correct and needs critical support and victory.
You are either a troll or a chud, either way I'm done with this interaction lmao
Making up future hypotheticals to get mad about instead of looking at the actual situation happening right now in the real world
I don't even necessarily think you're wrong about Russia, but you're the one making up and arguing about future hypotheticals so that's a weird thing to accuse someone else of doing. It's also ridiculous to demand or even expect that others give their full support of a capitalist power. Being suspicious of Russia's future plans (while also recognizing they are not the aggressors but are doing the truly good deed of killing nazis here and now) is absolutely a valid position for leftists.
lolololol
Assad is a fascist.
He literally invited David fucking Duke former Grand Wizard of the KKK for a state visit and put him on national TV to do a fascist rally saying Syria's fight against Israel and the US rights fight against (((zionists))) are one struggle.
The printing house personally owned by his former minister of defense (a marriage of state and corporate power, I wonder where I've heard that one before :thonk: ) has published 2 new editions of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion in the last 2 decades along with some several blood libel books he personally wrote and the Syrian Ministry of Information in 2005 decided that was what they wanted to show at the Syrian stall of the Cairo International Book Fair.
None of this justifies the carpet bombing of Syrian cities, but Bashar, Hafez, and the Syrian Ba'athist party are violently antisemitic nazi sympathiser, anticommunist ethnonationalists and have been since before they first took power.
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ISIS wasn't dispersed across Europe and Eastern Europe tho.
Luckily the Nazis are all flocking to Lviv to get missile striked
If I was part of a state anti-terrorism command I would be losing my shit right now. Javelin's can kill anything that moves from 2km away. School bus full of nuns? Yacht full of prime ministers? Balcony full of diplomats with a line of sight to a nearby hill? Boom. Boom. Boom. And then there's all the small arms and high explosives that are going to turn up missing, the armed drones, the RPGs, and god knows what else.
They’ve been coming for the communists, Jews, LGBT and Russian speakers for 8 years. Highest hate crimes in each of these categories in the post-Soviet states, sometimes higher than all other post-Soviet states combined. It was getting worse each year. They were fucking Nazis
Don't forget Roma. Europe hates Roma people probably more than any other minority.
Yeah it sucks I know people who got discriminated against as Roma because they can't even distinguish between Roma and poor people
Think I might've missed something. Did Putin come out and say he supports the communist left in Russia?
No, ukraine banned all 'opposition/ pro russia' parties(also all of the leftist parties), and we're seeing evidence of mass punishment of undesirables or people who just look/sound russian or have incorrect politics by militia/ military police/ fashy citizens
plus, from the word go the west has been pushing "russia is commulism!!!1!" narrative, this was the goal
For being a very based guy, Zelensky seems to be pretty pro censorship. Liberals neglect his banning of TV channels he didn't like (a year before the invasion).
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-medvedchuk-tv-channels-zelenskiy-defends-ban/31085877.html