In 2018, Sweden's official national Twitter account claimed that Swedish meatballs are based on a Turkish recipe[10] and King Charles XII used food as a way to help boost the relationships between the two countries.[11] However, a food and culture expert at Stockholm University claimed that there was no evidence behind this and that the meatballs likely originated in France or Italy instead.
That's weird, since swedish meatballs are basically just kofta without the spices.
Similar dishes can be invented in multiple places at once.
Dumplings, for example.
They've got a decent amount of nutmeg in them actually if you're making them right. Onion too. I like kofta better but Swedish meatballs are one of the few Swedish dishes I don't feel compelled to shit on
I think growing up my family's recipe for them was just like meat, salt, pepper, onions (but not enough), and breadcrumbs. Admittedly it was probably one of the best dishes they would make, up there with saffron rolls, but in retrospect it was just like bland kofta. I will say that the swedish dishes they'd make tended to be better than the generic American ones they'd do, which were inevitably mediocre to start with and then also cooked wrong without any attempt to fix or refine them.
Ugh. American food. Mushy casseroles, inedible, brick like meatloaf, badly cooked chicken, burnt, cracker-dry grilled hamburgers, potato salads in which the key ingredient is salmonella, deviled eggs with just enough flavorless paprika to turn them reddish, dry, fiberous turkey stuffed with mushy bread, and god awful desserts that combine like three different kinds of mushy sugar.
Yeah. A lot of underseasoned and overcooked meat too. Some of it's even stuff that can be good when prepared properly (like burgers can be great when seasoned and shaped properly so they're not just a bulging blob of charred unseasoned meat), but it seems like most people just fundamentally lack the ability to learn and improve upon recipes and instead just sort of throw food vaguely in the direction of heat and eat whatever comes of it.
So it's not surprising that dishes my family grew up eating and learned organically from their culture were consistently better than like recipes clipped from a magazine or half remembered from watching a cooking show.
You'd be hard pressed to get mainland Chinese food in the states outside of some cities. Had real dim sum once, but I was a culinary coward at the time, so I didn't really experience most of what was on offer.
I've got some great Sichuanese options in my area which really stand out from your standard takeout places that serve the same Chow Mein and Fried Rice dishes. The Mapo tofu is so perfectly crisp and mouth-numbing. Also have a Hui muslim restaurant a bit further away which serves massive sesame and scallion bread which comes out on a 3 foot diameter plate. So delicious
Gonna me honest basic bitch takeout veggie fried rice is one of my favorite comfort dishes.
I fucking love all Asian foods. Hook me up with some natto, kimchi, mochi, fried rice or nan bread any day.
I mean, Asia is a bunch of very different countries, there's no way someone couldn't find food that they like.
Outside of Southern Europe, the Balkans, and France literally all European food culture is just different forms of alcoholism.
I mean, unless we’re talking about the vcjd scare in the 90s, although us food might have been less healthy even then
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FDAUSDA bans all food containing lungs on the grounds that stomach acid or other fluids might enter the lungs during slaughter. Nevermind the fact that the Scots have never had that be a problem with traditional haggis (which includes sheep lungs).But yeah our regulations are absolute crap compared to European ones, and you can tell by comparing the number of chemicals on American versus European packaging.
Interestingly enough american hagis uses stomach as a substitute for lungs. Wich i guess does not come in contact with stomach acids.
But you are correct that there is a ban on lungs for human consumption. So american haggis is not real haggis. Also no lamb lung soup for yanks eaither.
Marketing makes ppl think French food is amazing. The bread is killer, the meat is good, cheese is great. Went to restaurants in Lyon and had Ranch food, whose name I can't recall. And It was great, sweet breads, river pike, and inteston, all family style. But that was only one restaurant, everywhere else was bad or just meh.
I think they mean formal style French cuisine, which is pretty good if not particularly representative of what the French eat from day to day.
There's formal style cuisines in basically every place that had large civilizations. Huaiyang cuisine, also just Peking Duck are examples
Sohan Papdi is basically Marathi (Indian) cotton candy made before cotton candy was invented
Aged cheeses are common throughout the Caucasus and Middle East, as is bread. Sausages are made practically everywhere. Truffles are found throughout the Middle East and China, just not the specific European kind.
France is just an extension of Mediterranean cooking, maybe with milder flavors due to the climate.
most French/South European things aren't unique to Europe but rather pan-Mediterranean, and if you subtract them from the equation there's literally nothing that defines European cuisine. Other than lingonberries
Mediterranean food is great though. Thus so is the French-specific incarnation of it as you say
A famous French dish is just "Chicken cooked in wine".
That's it. That's the whole thing. I think "French Cuisine" only became a thing in the US because US Anglos had literally the worst food culture in the world, consisting entirely of various kinds of baked biscuits and tinned formaldehyde laden beef up until like the 1960s.
Coq au vin is very good made right. And one dish of many. What about all the pastry. This is a dumb reddit take
Lyon has plenty good restaurants, fancy and not fancy. The countryside around it is some of the tastiest in the whole country. You admit it was very good. You made bad choices otherwise, not Lyon's fault.
French food culture is just alcoholism, they’re just better at marketing than most of Europe when it comes to food and they’ve built a fake reputation of being fancy
Same with Indian food. Maybe moreso since China's at least somewhat homogenized.
:wojak-nooo: noooo you're using too many ingredience you can't do that! It's all going to taste the same!! NOOOO!!!
:so-true: whips out the most disgusting can of lye-drenched herring you've ever witnessed
There is a reason there are Chinese Food Restaurants literally everywhere and no uh.. Swedish Food Restaurants? Br*tish Food Restaurants? Lmfao
Good point. I have brit heritage and I would not go to a place calling themselves British, sorry grandma.
Rated worst cuisine on Earth
Saw a poll of every nation’s preferred cuisines, Japan, Italy and Thailand at the top. Scandinavian countries are the bottom.
Makes sense. Nordic Socialism is close to communism and communism is no food.
But how can that be when Finland has a dish whose name translates literally to fat sauce
A traditional Finnish stew, made of pork belly fried in butter with onions and flour, stirred in water with salt and pepper
Fuckers started making a roux, gave up halfway and decided to eat this shit as is.
:pathetic:
Am Danish, can confirm. If you're vegetarian/vegan, don't bother at all.
Those motherfuckers put ketchup on pasta
and it mogs their actual food
be swede
go play videogames at your friends house
they have you over for dinner
you sit quietly in your friend's room and jack off while they eat because giving food to a guest is unearned and badhttps://i.imgur.com/gwyUn6w.png
but later you realize this was a blessing in disguise
because you would've had to eat swedish foodI forgot about the Great Shaming of Sweden earlier this year, when the entire world discovered that Swedes are incredibly, inexplicably, inexcusably rude to guests and the Swedes discovered that "Sacred hospitality" is a thing in every other culture on earth except theirs.
I will die on the hill of defending Scandinavian cuisine. If you don’t like good bread, seafood, hearty soups, foresty herbs and mushrooms and a shitload of root vegetables, then you’re no friend of mine.
No shortage of all that shit in Asian cuisine. This fight is dumb because all these different food cultures are just regional variations on a broad flavor theme.
Americans just cling to the idea that Chinese Food is PF Chiangs, Scandinavian food is Pickled Shark, and the best thing to eat in the world is pulverized, grilled, and deep fried midwestern livestock.
Call me a glutton but I've never not enjoyed a country's cuisine that's been prepared well, always feel like internet fights over who has good/bad food is kinda missing the point and people generally make appetising food out of the ingredients that are local to them :shrug-outta-hecks:
I'll snack on saltine crackers, mostly, and then like a smoothie or something with a similar texture for dinner? Don't worry, I'll figure something out - you just enjoy your meal.
On the real tho I'm autistic and my diet is super restricted due to sensory issues. I like veggies fine when they're fresh and crisp but I cannot stand the texture when they've been cooked in any way, so most of the time that leaves me with like... carrot sticks or something.
It feels silly to have trouble eating your veggies at my age but it is what it is. Any vegetables or mushroom varieties you'd recommend raw? Or as smoothie ingredients?
Thank you, I've got to do some grocery shopping tomorrow and I'm adding cabbage and hummus to my list! Little by little, I am determined to learn to like food.
Does cabbage dipped in hummus sound appealing? Is that a normal food thing people do?
I'll be honest, I don't really agree with your exaltation of our food, but I can kind of see where you're coming from. Also, my opinion is heavily biased, since I can't eat pork for both health and religious reasons, and also because my dad tried to make me like Pickled Herring for a long time, and now I get a light gag-reflex every time I smell it. I will add, to any onlookers, the racist party that OP is talking about has not only more or less monopolized the entire concept of "being danish", they also seem to only exist to drive our social democrats more and more insane (our SocDems seem to have a strong belief in triangulation, despite never using that word). Culturally the racist party is considered anathema to most people, especially in the major cities, but they have a strong backing among the retired, so despite being a generally right wing party, they don't really have the same economic agenda as the Tories or Republicans do.
until very recently pork was a rarity.
I kind of disagree with that. Until quite recently meat as such was, if not exactly rare then at least scarce and expensive but when you had meat it would most often be pork (if you discount seafood). After all, pigs were the only animals kept exclusively for their meat.
What a way for that :lmayo: to tell on himself. May as well say "all vegetables taste like iceberg lettuce!"
One of the must-have spice blends. I've noticed younger people here in the US sometimes don't like it because the star anise reminds them of black licorice candy their parents or grandparents gave them as a kid. It's not sweet compared to today's candy and cheap black licorice tends to not be of good quality.
The five components most commonly found in Chinese five spice are star anise (not to be confused with aniseed), cloves, cinnamon, pepper and fennel seeds, though various additions and substitutions are often made.
Food=culture is some of the shallowest liberal gestures ever that has just totally taken off. City Authentic bullshit where every town has 6 multicultural fests a year that are just food stand from local restaurants.
Europeans
own literally the entire world's land for 300 yearsJapan
start industrializing in the 20th century
on an island smaller than Spainguess which one invented the objectively most beautifully marbled beef on the planet
I'm not actually trying to be racist but it's almost painfully obvious that East Asian people care way more about taste than Europeans
- very high value on freshness, live fish tanks at stores, live abalones/shrimp/stuff whitey has never even heard of
- very high value on fruit ripeness, sell boxes of very ripe fruit in bulk to make them affordable, something I've never seen in an anglo grocery store
- the best ripest fruit (which is only affordable by the bourgeois) is all from Japan
- Kobe beef was invented in Japan
- Japan even won 1st place at international cheese competitions
it's pretty bougie but it does seem like Europeans "underperform" in the gastronomic-innovation competition given the absurd amount of resources they have. Spain and France are probably up there but that's about it
Something interesting I noted while living in Japan is the general fact that flavors are allowed to be mild in Japan. You don't need super strong flavors and having a lightly seasoned meal allows you to enjoy the flavors of the dish that is being served. Things made for the American palate are generally flavor explosions in your mouth. You can have big flavors in Japanese cooking but you can also just have smaller flavors too.
How do you leave out Italians? Nobody cares about fresh more than Italians. The Market Centrales in their city centers alone!
It got to be because of racism. Like in the turn of the 20th century there was a shit ton of eugenicist "food experts" who pushes the idea that overtly flavored food (like the dishes from the colonies) are bad for the white man's health and they instead must eat the blandest food possible to build their vigor or some shit. Like how the inventor of corn flakes was a literal :volcel-judge: who deliberately made corn flakes as horribly bland as possible to kill sexual desire.
Like in the turn of the 20th century there was a shit ton of eugenicist “food experts” who pushes the idea that overtly flavored food (like the dishes from the colonies) are bad for the white man’s health and they instead must eat the blandest
There was food racism around the time of the Spanish genociding Latin America of its indigenous too lol, they claimed that the reason why the indigenous were so "inferior" was because they subsisted on a diet of maize which made them inherently weak and were afraid that by eating corn they too would become Indigenous.
Some Spaniards worried that by eating indigenous foods, which they did not consider nutritious, they would weaken and risk turning into Indians. "In the view of Europeans, it was the food they ate, even more than the environment in which they lived, that gave Amerindians and Spaniards both their distinctive physical characteristics and their characteristic personalities." - The Body of the Conquistador pg.5
And then they proceeded to ban a great deal of food staple crops in what would become Mexico, such as chia seeds and amaranth which lead to modern consequences such as a great deal of Indigenous recipes being near-impossible to recreate due to lost knowledge about food (the Spanish burned shitloads of critical Mayan texts and the subsequent banning of crops meant that even passing knowledge from generation to generation was now in strife without the ingredients to make it)
There are an astonishing variety of bland foods in America that were invented by weird protestants who were very concerned about getting men to stop masturbating.
