• regul [any]
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        2 years ago

        In 2018, Sweden's official national Twitter account claimed that Swedish meatballs are based on a Turkish recipe[10] and King Charles XII used food as a way to help boost the relationships between the two countries.[11] However, a food and culture expert at Stockholm University claimed that there was no evidence behind this and that the meatballs likely originated in France or Italy instead.

        • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          That's weird, since swedish meatballs are basically just kofta without the spices.

          • regul [any]
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            2 years ago

            Similar dishes can be invented in multiple places at once.

            Dumplings, for example.

          • nohaybanda [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            kofta without the spices.

            :kombucha-disgust: but also :lmayo:

          • crime [she/her, any]
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            2 years ago

            They've got a decent amount of nutmeg in them actually if you're making them right. Onion too. I like kofta better but Swedish meatballs are one of the few Swedish dishes I don't feel compelled to shit on

            • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              I think growing up my family's recipe for them was just like meat, salt, pepper, onions (but not enough), and breadcrumbs. Admittedly it was probably one of the best dishes they would make, up there with saffron rolls, but in retrospect it was just like bland kofta. I will say that the swedish dishes they'd make tended to be better than the generic American ones they'd do, which were inevitably mediocre to start with and then also cooked wrong without any attempt to fix or refine them.

              • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Ugh. American food. Mushy casseroles, inedible, brick like meatloaf, badly cooked chicken, burnt, cracker-dry grilled hamburgers, potato salads in which the key ingredient is salmonella, deviled eggs with just enough flavorless paprika to turn them reddish, dry, fiberous turkey stuffed with mushy bread, and god awful desserts that combine like three different kinds of mushy sugar.

                • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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                  2 years ago

                  Yeah. A lot of underseasoned and overcooked meat too. Some of it's even stuff that can be good when prepared properly (like burgers can be great when seasoned and shaped properly so they're not just a bulging blob of charred unseasoned meat), but it seems like most people just fundamentally lack the ability to learn and improve upon recipes and instead just sort of throw food vaguely in the direction of heat and eat whatever comes of it.

                  So it's not surprising that dishes my family grew up eating and learned organically from their culture were consistently better than like recipes clipped from a magazine or half remembered from watching a cooking show.

    • Abraxiel
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      2 years ago

      You'd be hard pressed to get mainland Chinese food in the states outside of some cities. Had real dim sum once, but I was a culinary coward at the time, so I didn't really experience most of what was on offer.

      • wifom [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        I've got some great Sichuanese options in my area which really stand out from your standard takeout places that serve the same Chow Mein and Fried Rice dishes. The Mapo tofu is so perfectly crisp and mouth-numbing. Also have a Hui muslim restaurant a bit further away which serves massive sesame and scallion bread which comes out on a 3 foot diameter plate. So delicious

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Gonna me honest basic bitch takeout veggie fried rice is one of my favorite comfort dishes.

    • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      I fucking love all Asian foods. Hook me up with some natto, kimchi, mochi, fried rice or nan bread any day.

      I mean, Asia is a bunch of very different countries, there's no way someone couldn't find food that they like.

  • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
    hexagon
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    2 years ago

    Outside of Southern Europe, the Balkans, and France literally all European food culture is just different forms of alcoholism.

    • Farman [any]
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      2 years ago

      I like hagis. But i hear yanks baned it in their country for some reason.

        • btbt [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I mean, unless we’re talking about the vcjd scare in the 90s, although us food might have been less healthy even then

            • ssjmarx [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              The FDA USDA bans all food containing lungs on the grounds that stomach acid or other fluids might enter the lungs during slaughter. Nevermind the fact that the Scots have never had that be a problem with traditional haggis (which includes sheep lungs).

              But yeah our regulations are absolute crap compared to European ones, and you can tell by comparing the number of chemicals on American versus European packaging.

              • Farman [any]
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                2 years ago

                Interestingly enough american hagis uses stomach as a substitute for lungs. Wich i guess does not come in contact with stomach acids.

                But you are correct that there is a ban on lungs for human consumption. So american haggis is not real haggis. Also no lamb lung soup for yanks eaither.

        • Spongebobsquarejuche [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          Marketing makes ppl think French food is amazing. The bread is killer, the meat is good, cheese is great. Went to restaurants in Lyon and had Ranch food, whose name I can't recall. And It was great, sweet breads, river pike, and inteston, all family style. But that was only one restaurant, everywhere else was bad or just meh.

          • Mardoniush [she/her]
            ·
            2 years ago

            I think they mean formal style French cuisine, which is pretty good if not particularly representative of what the French eat from day to day.

            • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
              ·
              2 years ago

              There's formal style cuisines in basically every place that had large civilizations. Huaiyang cuisine, also just Peking Duck are examples

              Sohan Papdi is basically Marathi (Indian) cotton candy made before cotton candy was invented

          • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
            ·
            2 years ago

            Aged cheeses are common throughout the Caucasus and Middle East, as is bread. Sausages are made practically everywhere. Truffles are found throughout the Middle East and China, just not the specific European kind.

            France is just an extension of Mediterranean cooking, maybe with milder flavors due to the climate.

            most French/South European things aren't unique to Europe but rather pan-Mediterranean, and if you subtract them from the equation there's literally nothing that defines European cuisine. Other than lingonberries

            • hahafuck [they/them]
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              2 years ago

              Mediterranean food is great though. Thus so is the French-specific incarnation of it as you say

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            2 years ago

            A famous French dish is just "Chicken cooked in wine".

            That's it. That's the whole thing. I think "French Cuisine" only became a thing in the US because US Anglos had literally the worst food culture in the world, consisting entirely of various kinds of baked biscuits and tinned formaldehyde laden beef up until like the 1960s.

            • hahafuck [they/them]
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              2 years ago

              Coq au vin is very good made right. And one dish of many. What about all the pastry. This is a dumb reddit take

          • hahafuck [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            Lyon has plenty good restaurants, fancy and not fancy. The countryside around it is some of the tastiest in the whole country. You admit it was very good. You made bad choices otherwise, not Lyon's fault.

        • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
          ·
          2 years ago

          French food culture is just alcoholism, they’re just better at marketing than most of Europe when it comes to food and they’ve built a fake reputation of being fancy

  • Flinch [he/him]
    ·
    2 years ago

    :wojak-nooo: noooo you're using too many ingredience you can't do that! It's all going to taste the same!! NOOOO!!!

    :so-true: whips out the most disgusting can of lye-drenched herring you've ever witnessed

  • Torenico [he/him]
    ·
    2 years ago

    There is a reason there are Chinese Food Restaurants literally everywhere and no uh.. Swedish Food Restaurants? Br*tish Food Restaurants? Lmfao

    • AssadCurse [none/use name]
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      edit-2
      2 years ago

      Rated worst cuisine on Earth

      Saw a poll of every nation’s preferred cuisines, Japan, Italy and Thailand at the top. Scandinavian countries are the bottom.

      • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        But how can that be when Finland has a dish whose name translates literally to fat sauce

        A traditional Finnish stew, made of pork belly fried in butter with onions and flour, stirred in water with salt and pepper

        • nohaybanda [he/him]
          ·
          2 years ago

          Fuckers started making a roux, gave up halfway and decided to eat this shit as is.

          :pathetic:

      • WideningGyro [any]
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        2 years ago

        Am Danish, can confirm. If you're vegetarian/vegan, don't bother at all.

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    1 year ago

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    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      I will die on the hill of defending Scandinavian cuisine. If you don’t like good bread, seafood, hearty soups, foresty herbs and mushrooms and a shitload of root vegetables, then you’re no friend of mine.

      No shortage of all that shit in Asian cuisine. This fight is dumb because all these different food cultures are just regional variations on a broad flavor theme.

      Americans just cling to the idea that Chinese Food is PF Chiangs, Scandinavian food is Pickled Shark, and the best thing to eat in the world is pulverized, grilled, and deep fried midwestern livestock.

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      5 months ago

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    • WeedReference420 [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Call me a glutton but I've never not enjoyed a country's cuisine that's been prepared well, always feel like internet fights over who has good/bad food is kinda missing the point and people generally make appetising food out of the ingredients that are local to them :shrug-outta-hecks:

        • MerryChristmas [any]
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          2 years ago

          I'll snack on saltine crackers, mostly, and then like a smoothie or something with a similar texture for dinner? Don't worry, I'll figure something out - you just enjoy your meal.

            • MerryChristmas [any]
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              edit-2
              2 years ago

              On the real tho I'm autistic and my diet is super restricted due to sensory issues. I like veggies fine when they're fresh and crisp but I cannot stand the texture when they've been cooked in any way, so most of the time that leaves me with like... carrot sticks or something.

              It feels silly to have trouble eating your veggies at my age but it is what it is. Any vegetables or mushroom varieties you'd recommend raw? Or as smoothie ingredients?

                • MerryChristmas [any]
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                  2 years ago

                  Thank you, I've got to do some grocery shopping tomorrow and I'm adding cabbage and hummus to my list! Little by little, I am determined to learn to like food.

                  Does cabbage dipped in hummus sound appealing? Is that a normal food thing people do?

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    • CTHlurker [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I'll be honest, I don't really agree with your exaltation of our food, but I can kind of see where you're coming from. Also, my opinion is heavily biased, since I can't eat pork for both health and religious reasons, and also because my dad tried to make me like Pickled Herring for a long time, and now I get a light gag-reflex every time I smell it. I will add, to any onlookers, the racist party that OP is talking about has not only more or less monopolized the entire concept of "being danish", they also seem to only exist to drive our social democrats more and more insane (our SocDems seem to have a strong belief in triangulation, despite never using that word). Culturally the racist party is considered anathema to most people, especially in the major cities, but they have a strong backing among the retired, so despite being a generally right wing party, they don't really have the same economic agenda as the Tories or Republicans do.

    • SoyViking [he/him]
      ·
      2 years ago

      until very recently pork was a rarity.

      I kind of disagree with that. Until quite recently meat as such was, if not exactly rare then at least scarce and expensive but when you had meat it would most often be pork (if you discount seafood). After all, pigs were the only animals kept exclusively for their meat.

  • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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    edit-2
    2 years ago

    be swede
    go play videogames at your friends house
    they have you over for dinner
    you sit quietly in your friend's room and jack off while they eat because giving food to a guest is unearned and bad

    https://i.imgur.com/gwyUn6w.png

    but later you realize this was a blessing in disguise
    because you would've had to eat swedish food

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
      ·
      2 years ago

      I forgot about the Great Shaming of Sweden earlier this year, when the entire world discovered that Swedes are incredibly, inexplicably, inexcusably rude to guests and the Swedes discovered that "Sacred hospitality" is a thing in every other culture on earth except theirs.

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      • medium_adult_son [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        One of the must-have spice blends. I've noticed younger people here in the US sometimes don't like it because the star anise reminds them of black licorice candy their parents or grandparents gave them as a kid. It's not sweet compared to today's candy and cheap black licorice tends to not be of good quality.

        The five components most commonly found in Chinese five spice are star anise (not to be confused with aniseed), cloves, cinnamon, pepper and fennel seeds, though various additions and substitutions are often made.

  • btbt [he/him]
    ·
    2 years ago

    I know it isn’t a swedish mf talking

  • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
    ·
    2 years ago

    Food=culture is some of the shallowest liberal gestures ever that has just totally taken off. City Authentic bullshit where every town has 6 multicultural fests a year that are just food stand from local restaurants.

  • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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    edit-2
    2 years ago

    Europeans
    own literally the entire world's land for 300 years

    Japan
    start industrializing in the 20th century
    on an island smaller than Spain

    guess which one invented the objectively most beautifully marbled beef on the planet

    I'm not actually trying to be racist but it's almost painfully obvious that East Asian people care way more about taste than Europeans

    • very high value on freshness, live fish tanks at stores, live abalones/shrimp/stuff whitey has never even heard of
    • very high value on fruit ripeness, sell boxes of very ripe fruit in bulk to make them affordable, something I've never seen in an anglo grocery store
    • the best ripest fruit (which is only affordable by the bourgeois) is all from Japan
    • Kobe beef was invented in Japan
    • Japan even won 1st place at international cheese competitions

    it's pretty bougie but it does seem like Europeans "underperform" in the gastronomic-innovation competition given the absurd amount of resources they have. Spain and France are probably up there but that's about it

    • charly4994 [she/her, comrade/them]
      ·
      2 years ago

      Something interesting I noted while living in Japan is the general fact that flavors are allowed to be mild in Japan. You don't need super strong flavors and having a lightly seasoned meal allows you to enjoy the flavors of the dish that is being served. Things made for the American palate are generally flavor explosions in your mouth. You can have big flavors in Japanese cooking but you can also just have smaller flavors too.

    • JuanGLADIO [any]
      ·
      2 years ago

      How do you leave out Italians? Nobody cares about fresh more than Italians. The Market Centrales in their city centers alone!