Or is it just going to be like the site name where mods just do it without asking anyone?

(Maybe it's clear by the question but I also don't really understand how all this works)

  • solaranus
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    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Maybe we can do what the Questionable Content guy does and get a bunch of obnoxious re-directs like liberal.haven and nobedtimes.nobaths and aunty.authoritarian

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  • AHopeOnceMore [he/him]B
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    1 year ago

    Probably not.

    The choice will be made in a more democratic way: admins will make a decision and we will whine about it, and the amount of whining will determine any course correction.

  • heartheartbreak [fae/faer]
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    Not to be harsh but who cares tbh. We are here for the slop and respite from the rest of the shit liberal intelligence agency controlled internet. As long as we can keep the posting culture from degenerating into rage baiting interaction mills anything else is fine imo.

      • JuneFall [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        While that is correct Stirner's Spuk (having had a hundred years of different meaning) is not the same. The terms translate did change within the US to a racist slur meaning. So using the original German term "spuk" (instead the double "o") might be fine?

        That said recommending German words feels icky to me. Within some leftist circles (think RAF surroundings and autonomous antifa) categorically lower case writing is common.

      • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        Can you provide any context or justification? "Spook" is also a pejorative against CIA officers and other glowies and I'm hesitant to just drop it because someone on the internet asked

        • Sickos [they/them, it/its]
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          1 year ago

          Sure! Sorry it's NPR, but they have a solid article. https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2017/10/24/559502238/this-halloween-what-does-it-mean-to-call-something-spooky

          • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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            1 year ago

            Appreciate it. Based on that article, it meant "spooky" in the innocuous sense for a long time and was a slur for black people in the middle of the previous century. It looks like a more context-sensitive word than some other slurs, since it has more "legitimate" use; a blanket avoidance seems over-eager IMO

          • Sickos [they/them, it/its]
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            If folks want me to stop bringing this up, I'm willing; I'm not personally offended or affected by its use. I agree that a pejorative for spies and such is handy to have (and that Stirner's use well predates the slur). Like, it's obvious in context it's not being used for racial reasons.

  • wifom [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    I mostly stay away from stuff like this but from what I've seen from the past week merging with these Lemmy communities seems like a terrible idea. I get the growth aspect but it just seems like we are asking for endless amounts of liberalism to be injected into every thread here

      • temptest [any]
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        1 year ago

        No, we don't.

        The admins can even just block them all outright, if they want. And if I'm not mistaken, their plan was to first just federate with Lemmygrad only.

    • HornyOnMain
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      1 year ago

      ngl, im pretty hyped for the hexbear incursion, unfortunately im gonna be out touching grass when it happens so i wont be able to see it

    • MF_COOM [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      You actually can read page two, you just have to refresh after loading it

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    • Dryad [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Who we federate with means whose posts will show up on hexbear. If we federate with beehaw you'll come here one day and see posts about the evil genocide denying tankies all over the front page.

      (That won't happen because beehaw won't federate with us but just for example)

      • tango [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        You can still sort by local and only see Hexbear posts even if this instance is federated with others

        • familiar [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          it has a lot more to do with what flavors of liberals may occasionally wander in

        • HarryLime [any]
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          1 year ago

          Good. I only want to see hexbear stuff tbh.

      • HornyOnMain
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        1 year ago

        beehaw preemptively defedded us under the claim that we promoted hate speech

        • D61 [any]
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          1 year ago

          :john-brown: "Yes"

    • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I dont get why everyone on this bear site is so obsessed with a movie review podcast

        • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Ye old bible of Hex, book 1: "yeah John brown was a good guy, right?"

      • MF_COOM [he/him]
        hexagon
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        1 year ago

        What podcast? The old name referred to the subreddit that became a notorious boogieman of libs to the point where my NYT-reading lib friends would mald about it. Basically nobody outside the left even knows what that podcast is.

        • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          The actual CTH podcast held like the second position on Patreon's most grossing podcasts for a few years.

          The old sub, being a sub intended for the podcast, did take on a life of its own but I think its reasonable to separate from from the podcast after this many degrees of separation. At this point, hexbear is a VERY different zone than the old CTH sub. Part of the sub's culture was the stupid reach it had, like you mention. It was basically a sub that existed to cause trouble. Hexbear still has the energy of people who like to cause trouble but fairly far removed from the most sick of sickos that would really run the brigading.

          I like that Hexbear has the lore attached to /r/cth, but that it evolved into it's own thing. It's a lot more caring and sympathetic than the sub and I think that's alright.

          The discord Diaspora has been hanging on the fat spyro joke for a while now.

          Overall I think the actual "Chapo Trap House" name is a bit tacky, Felix went on a podcast a couple years ago that was a black culture type leftist podcast and the host dug into him for the name and he really didn't get it.

          I don't know if my bit of 'tism has me totally misunderstanding you, tbf.

          • MF_COOM [he/him]
            hexagon
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            1 year ago

            My point was that we didn't name ourselves after a podcast, we named ourselves after the sub that struck fear into the hearts of libs.

            The fact that the podcast has a lot of Patreon subs is kind of unrelated to what I said, which is that outside of the left basically nobody has heard of it. Actual big podcasts don't have Patreon accounts they just do ads.

            • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              Personally I rather this site have it's own identity not centered on the fact there was once a subreddit that would bully other redditors.

              IMO it feels sorta pathetic I guess? We built a community here that is more or less distinct from the sub, and still manages to strike fear into lemmy libs on beehive somehow, despite being an extremely positive place.

              Everything is transient, nothing stays the same.

              Additionally, the context of that podcast that felix was on, the host was roasting him essentially because to people like him, it seemed like a goofy white boy fronting on the very serious reputation of the real El Chapo. He tried to explain that anyone else trying to do this would probably get jumped at the very least. To this guy the name "Chapo Trap House" felt like a bunch of well off white dudes doing a bit that they didn't understand. I tend to agree. Thinking about it too hard feels like I'm back in college and 5 white boys are standing in a circle rapping along to "real slim shady".

              • MF_COOM [he/him]
                hexagon
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                1 year ago

                Yeah I guess my point is I'd be fine if I was outnumbered in opinion on the name change, I just don't like that we were never asked what we thought the mods just did it.

                And tbf I think discourse about the podcasts name is dumb af. It's clearly supposed to be ironic. Like holy shit who cares go do some praxis.

                • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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                  Nah the name change was bad and and jumping over to the low tier evanescent meme that was the hexagonal bear as a permanent name has shades of "so random" written all over it.

            • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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              I forget the name, I listened to it because there was this person on twitter, DahliaStKnives, who would cohost. The other host did the roasting but she was pumped to interview felix. She's now like some kind of tradcath conservative that allows her to be trans or w/e and has changed her name a few times and I think deleted her account.

              What I'm trying to say is, I'm equipped as you are to find this. I think the podcast had a name like "ghetto news network" but searching it isn't coming up with anything. I think it may all be nuked.

              edit: this is the only evidence I've found from it https://twitter.com/Sandernista412/status/1256450208323514368?s=20

  • macabrett
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    1 year ago

    I have a feeling that a lot of these instances are going to defederate with us, so I'm not sure it even matters. They seriously think we're monsters lol its crazy. Half the posts on this site are like "I love my trans comrades!" or "How are you doing today?" and libs are frothing at the mouth because we refuse western propaganda about China.

    • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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      These people will see one halfway decent comment getting dogpiled by their circlejerk and freak out that they've been taken over by tankies. The only reason they come here is to post cheap bait and troll. Their knowledge of what we're like is entirely colored by what other users tell them, like a spooky story passed around a campfire that gets embellished with each telling :specter-global:

      I remember the first time I checked out r/cth and I was expecting the absolute worst, but I was so frustrated with everywhere else that I was willing to try anything. It was nothing like I expected, in a good way. An inclusive space for queer people that also didn't enforce ideological purity where people didn't take themselves too seriously and knew how to deal with chuds. So many libs and redditors have this weird thing where they don't ever take the final step of actually believing in things, they just like repeating words that make them feel good and if you phrase something too strongly or just say the right activation phrase they start reaching for the pearls (or the phone to call the cops lol).

  • cosecantphi [he/him]
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    The site originally did the whole voting thing for most of the first year, but I recall it being deemed too vulnerable to fuckery and more trouble than it was worth. Maybe it'd be okay if we had some way of ensuring the only people who can vote are those who have been posting here long enough that we can reliably for the most part assume they aren't wreckers.

    • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Maybe it’d be okay if we had some way of insuring the only people who can vote are those who have been posting here long enough that we can reliably for the most part assume they aren’t wreckers.

      To be eligible to vote, you must write a 1000 word essay describing a past struggle session of your choice and what the objectively correct take on it is.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I like the idea of devolved democracy, but I also recognize that democratic centralism/having a clique of mean girls run things has certain advantages in a wartime situation.

      Maybe it’d be okay if we had some way of ensuring the only people who can vote are those who have been posting here long enough that we can reliably for the most part assume they aren’t wreckers.

      Unironically starting the Hexbears Party to own the libs.

      That could work, though. Like put together some kind of actual party structure thing that is selective about membership so we can protect the site culture while still engaging in intellectual combat with our "respected liberal peers."

  • Parzivus [any]
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    1 year ago

    I don't really care if I have to look at one website or two for lemmygrad and the rest of them are libs :shrug-outta-hecks:

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    1 year ago

    How does federation work? Is it site wide? Is it individual?

    I'd been working under the impression that once we were federated individual could choose to see other instances on their front page but admittedly I don't know and haven't done any research.

    • wheresmysurplusvalue [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      I think this is basically right, but also it means users from other instances will be able to start commenting on hexbear threads, if the instance isn't banned from federating with hexbear

    • familiar [he/him]
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      1 year ago
      • You pretty much get it
      • you should go do some research by using the site a bit, the secondhand discussion here isn't really going to give you a good understanding about what's up.
    • MF_COOM [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      Too caught up in procedure and formalism for what

        • MF_COOM [he/him]
          hexagon
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          1 year ago

          A discussion isn't necessarily democratic, but when did we have a discussion about whether we should federate with other instances and which instances we should or shouldn't federate with?

          • StellarTabi [none/use name]
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            1 year ago

            I think federation is implied since day 1 because it's the whole reason to use lemmy instead of postmill in the first place

            • MF_COOM [he/him]
              hexagon
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              1 year ago

              My understanding is a main reason for migration is that it's supposed to fix a lot of the technical problems HB has been having, and reduce the work our mods have to do in the background. Federation is an optional step afterwards.

    • sovietknuckles [they/them]
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      It took a year for our devs to upstream Hexbear's features before we were ready to migrate to upstream Lemmy. The migration is this weekend

      https://hexbear.net/post/272295

      • Comp4 [she/her]
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        WOOT This weekend ? Gotta put on my best suit for this