If you have any useful resource links please tag me in a comment with the link:

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to this if you can, thank you.

Links

Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ukraine/@49.1162725,31.7993839,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d1d9c154700e8f:0x1068488f64010!8m2!3d48.379433!4d31.1655799?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1B1PLMhbHmG1aJ2-QNxHY1TksI6HlNhqF&ll=48.60777942568106%2C36.4496511633501&z=7

Leftist discussion threads:

https://hexbear.net/post/177324

https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/

https://lemmygrad.ml/

Twitter military updaters:

https://nitter.42l.fr/RWApodcast

https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary :kitty-cri:

https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet

https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike

https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael

https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518

https://www.youtube.com/c/DefensePoliticsAsia/videos

obvious disclaimers about taking all of them with tonnes of salt etc

Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413

Better war/propaganda analysis:

https://www.understandingwar.org

https://www.moonofalabama.org/

News updates:

https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html

Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html

YT/Video in Ukraine:

https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/videos

https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTe

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  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    3 years ago

    I've seen so much fucking shit from Ukroflag twitter about how "actually its quite common and accepted in wartime to blow someones brains out on the street for stealing a loaf of bread or a pack of candles so public lynching, torture and humiliation is the merciful alternative".

    Is there any merit to this at all or is this just freaks finding excuses for random acts of violence because Ukraine is a saintly country that can do no wrong?

    • riley
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      11 months ago

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      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        3 years ago

        I haven't done as much research about martial law and shit as I would have liked to have done so I do actually wonder if this is a general ghoulish wartime thing or a particularly ghoulish thing by Ukraine, most of my googling about looting just brings up soldiers looting homes and stores, not civilians stealing/looting for basic survival.

        Also I'd like to know if it is an actually common thing, if this is actually accepted or if its a case where the enemies of the west have been punished and critizised for it but when our friends do it, its normal suddenly. It might seem naive but I'd like to leave the door open at least that I'm not just witnessing widespread approval and acceptance of random bouts of fascist violence against civilian populations by everyone around me.

        I was mistaken about how unusual the act of banning all men 18-60 from leaving the country seemed to me, so I'm open to being mistaken and not knowledgable about other wartime shit.

        • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          banning men from leaving without conscripting them isn't normal https://theconversation.com/why-banning-men-from-leaving-ukraine-violates-their-human-rights-178411

          • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
            ·
            3 years ago

            Oh nice, so it is in fact particularly fucked up but everyone pretends its not just to have their saint intact.

        • ItsPequod [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          What comes to mind for me is, the Japanese interment camps for Americans and for Canadians are usually condemned as horrible mistakes that never should have been wrought... yet I guess if it's wartime you gotta do what you gotta do according to many, and shockingly few people recognize how literally the government just stole all those peoples stuff and just never gave it back.

          • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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            3 years ago

            Even then its not really the same thing, thats still like a relatively organized thing by the government, not just seemingly random acts of brutality by the national guard and civilians on the street.

            And also of course its collective punishment before any actual wrongdoing has been committed, though Im sure that liberals would love to hear that Ukraine is organizing camps for their Russian ethnic minority.

    • Staines [he/him, they/them]
      ·
      3 years ago

      A lot of it is just "armed patriots" taking the opportunity to execute random people for having a Russian accent, being homeless, voting for the wrong political party and so on.

      • Bulma [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Wtf do you do if you're a minority/lgbt and didnt gtfo? Just die or hope you had enough food in the basement you also hopefully own?

        E: https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-03-03/lgbt-ukrainians-are-terrified-of-a-life-under-russia-where-homophobia

        "The transgender singer is running low on food, but is afraid to go out into the city to replenish supplies, not only because of the threat from Russians, but also because many Ukrainians are newly armed, having been handed weapons to defend against the invasion.

        “This is a homophobic, transphobic place,” she said. “We are not protected.”

        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
          ·
          3 years ago

          Yeah it would be a fairly significant understatement to say it fucking sucks to be LGBT+ in Eastern Europe. Can only hope they get through this safely.

    • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Is there any merit to this at all or is this just freaks finding excuses for random acts of violence because Ukraine is a saintly country that can do no wrong?

      No, LMAO

    • SoyViking [he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      Well... During WWII the Nazis executed people for petty crime in occupied eastern Europe so there's that.

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
        ·
        3 years ago

        :agony-deep:

        Wow it sure is great that hordes of people are saying that Ukrainian civilians are lucky to not be treated like how the Nazis treated the people they were occupying.