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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to this if you can, thank you.

Links

Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ukraine/@49.1162725,31.7993839,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d1d9c154700e8f:0x1068488f64010!8m2!3d48.379433!4d31.1655799?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1B1PLMhbHmG1aJ2-QNxHY1TksI6HlNhqF&ll=48.60777942568106%2C36.4496511633501&z=7

Leftist discussion threads:

https://hexbear.net/post/177324

https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/ :kitty-cri-texas:

https://lemmygrad.ml/

Twitter military updaters:

https://nitter.42l.fr/RWApodcast

https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary :kitty-cri:

https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet

https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike

https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael

https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518

https://www.youtube.com/c/DefensePoliticsAsia/videos

obvious disclaimers about taking all of them with tonnes of salt etc

Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413

Better war/propaganda analysis:

https://www.understandingwar.org

https://www.moonofalabama.org/

News updates:

https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html

Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html

YT/Video in Ukraine:

https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/videos

https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTe

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  • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Just posted on the other thread about how Twitter is responding to the fall of Mariupol:

    In response to citizens now actually being able to leave, Ukrainian propaganda Twitter (and all the libs retweeting mindlessly) are falsely claiming that anywhere between 5k-25k Mariupol citizens have actually been forced onto buses at gunpoint and will be taken to “camps” before being forced to relocate to Russia. Usually with unrelated pictures of train cars to really hammer the sick insinuation home.

    In response to there being lots of video and pictures of Russia bring in and handing out humanitarian aid to people in the city now they control it, the pro-Ukraine people are actively denying it and claiming that Russia is bombing all incoming humanitarian aid. I’m seeing the endlessly repeated line of “children drinking water out of radiators to not die of thirst” in a very unnatural way.

    Just total denial / inversion of reality stuff.

    • Wildgrapes [she/her]
      ·
      2 years ago

      Wait did mariupol finally fall? I'm not seeing recent headlines but this would be great news. Azov can stop butchering people who try and leave

      • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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        edit-2
        2 years ago

        They hoisted the Russian flag up on the admin building, just clean up the rest at this point

      • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
        ·
        2 years ago

        Not sure they claim every street, but yeah basically. Seems like Russia / DPR now control the vast majority, lots of footage of dead Azov nazis in the tower blocks they'd apparently retreated back to and been firing from for the last 24hrs or so. Chechen forces apparently mopping up odd Azov members trying to escape or cut off on the other side of the industrial area on the other edge of the city. Russian / DPR forces have also been raising flags over government buildings apparently.

        • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
          ·
          2 years ago

          Fuck Putin but critical support for Russian forces

          In case of Mariupol they kinda are liberators

    • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
      ·
      2 years ago

      This sounds like a stock accusation, like I definitely heard "kidnapped into camps on the mainland" thing with the HK protests.

      • eddies [he/him]
        ·
        2 years ago

        really grinds my gears to call it deportation, like russia wants them to settle in the urals or something

      • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
        ·
        2 years ago

        For those accusations, they mostly seem to have started from nationalist writers at the Kyiv Independent and spread from there.

        In general I'm just trying to aggregate what seems likely from multiple sources, all the usual Western sources, pro-Ukrainian Twitter (which is most of it at this point), and varying degrees of pro-Russian accounts mostly on Telegram like InterSlava, MangoPress, Russians With Attitude podcast and some accounts that nuked by Twitter.

        I try to take it all with a pinch of salt and I find the rah-rah nationalism on both sides a bit gross, but it's the best we're gonna get in knowing what's actually going amidst the fog of war.

    • Vncredleader
      ·
      2 years ago

      Same shit they pulled with Venezuela and Syria

    • SoyViking [he/him]
      ·
      2 years ago

      Mariupol has a Russian majority population and is part of the DPR. It makes sense that citizens who wants to leave the city for somewhere safer choose to go east instead of West where they're likely to be lynched by banderites for being too Russian.

      • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
        ·
        2 years ago

        Exactly. Even if I didn't have any Russian connection I wouldn't want to stay in a captured city that potentially might suffer a counter attack by Nazi zealots where a good chunk of it is rubble anyway. I'd head away from the front lines and at this point that means going deeper into Russian held territory rather than trying to outrun the front to the West.

    • catposter [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      obviously the west is pushing propaganda hard, but why would Russia give humanitarian aid? They're another country motivated by profit, I'm confused

      • riley
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        edit-2
        11 months ago

        deleted by creator

      • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
        ·
        2 years ago

        For the reasons Riley said below and because despite it being the home of Azov, Mariupol has lots of Russian speaking and ethnic Russian people. Lots of people have family and friends in Russia or the other parts of the East that Russia is trying to unite/give independence. Regardless of any other objectives (toppling the Zelensky gov, demilitarisation of Ukraine etc) if they don't achieve that they know people in those regions and at home will see it as a failure.

      • voice_of_hermes [he/him,any]
        ·
        2 years ago

        why would Russia give humanitarian aid? They’re another country motivated by profit, I’m confused

        Pre-populated cities are generally more exploitable than empty wastelands. It takes time and money to bring in people to do labor.