If you have any useful resource links please tag me in a comment with the link:
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict
Add to this if you can, thank you.
Links
Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ukraine/@49.1162725,31.7993839,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d1d9c154700e8f:0x1068488f64010!8m2!3d48.379433!4d31.1655799?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1B1PLMhbHmG1aJ2-QNxHY1TksI6HlNhqF&ll=48.60777942568106%2C36.4496511633501&z=7
Leftist discussion threads:
https://hexbear.net/post/177324
https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/
https://lemmygrad.ml/
Twitter military updaters:
https://nitter.42l.fr/RWApodcast
https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary :kitty-cri:
https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet
https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike
https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael
https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518
https://www.youtube.com/c/DefensePoliticsAsia/videos
obvious disclaimers about taking all of them with tonnes of salt etc
Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413
Better war/propaganda analysis:
https://www.understandingwar.org
https://www.moonofalabama.org/
News updates:
https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html
Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html
YT/Video in Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/videos
https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTe
Previous megathreads
!news@hexbear.net RSS Feed https://hexbear.net/feeds/c/news.xml
Anonymous: "I can excuse slavery by Nestle, but doing business with Russia is where I draw the line!"
Anonymous has to be a fucking LARP, right? So pathetic
People getting vanned. YouTuber in Latvia “Weapons of History” just got arrested for having a pro-Russian bias. Someone was arrested in the US the other day for displaying a DPR flag in their window (update: DPR flag guy was assaulted, attacker was arrested. Sorry for confusion). ASB Military News just cut all coverage of Ukraine-Russia because some members of their team are in nations where that can get you jail time.
The West is getting so fucking fascist. Stay frosty and stay anonymous
Mango Press, they are explicitly communist as well and cover other topics too
https://t.me/mangopress
Intel Slava Z has all the content ASB posted and more, but they don’t vet their intel as well and are more explicitly Russian nationalist. Still a decent source for direct telegram footage of the battlefield
And I just got settled in :estonia-cool: with a decent-ish job and all. Feel that being against NATO (and recognizing their responsibility in creating the conditions that caused this war) could well be considered "pro-Russia" and outlawed here too.
Wonder if I should start to seriously consider moving back to South Africa (again)
https://t.me/mangopress/1767
Edit: they followed up on the story, Ukrainian hate-crimed a Russian and has been arrested, so it wasn’t the blogger arrested
They did, I didn’t see mango press’ update until just now when I searched up the source
Catching a van will be in like 2-3 years, though. Fascists love to disappear people.
People are catching vans right now. See my other comment on this thread
I'm IP banned for saying the sniper guy would probably get hit with an airstrike, and then reporting calls to violence against russians (with no "fighters" qualifier)
edit: okay I lied I said I hope he gets hit, but still not a call to violence
Stupidpol is reactionary and always has been. Genz is still worth using but how much longer is anyones guess.
TBH getting admin-banned seems to be a matter of a lot of assholes hitting the report button and then something sticking against the wall of admin fuckwads. Check this out: https://www.reddit.com/user/voice-of-hermes/comments/ticpie/hey_admins_stop_getting_played/
Now, it's quite possible that certain topics you are reported for may make you more likely to run into a fuckwad admin. And being critical of U.S./NATO is most likely a big one right now. But just wanted to point out that it's a general problem as well.
Intel Slava reports on Telegram:
🇷🇺🇱🇻 The author of one of the main Russian-language YouTube channels on military topics was arrested in Riga. European authorities want to accuse him of treason because of the pro-Russian orientation of his videos
The History of Weapons YouTube channel has become one of the main patriotic amateur sites on YouTube in recent weeks. Its author, Kirill Fedorov, published in it analyzes of hostilities and did not hide his pro-Russian positions. The videos went into trends and gained millions of views, which the EU authorities did not like very much.
Permanently residing in Latvia, Kirill decided to emigrate to Russia, seeing how the foreign policy situation was deteriorating. Moreover, from the very beginning of the military operation, the blogger began to receive regular threats - he was obsessively offered to change the direction of his videos to anti-Russian, promising otherwise serious problems with the authorities. But on March 17, just before his departure, right in his parents' apartment, he was detained by state security agencies without explanation. After the 48 hours required by European law, he was not released, and his relatives and lawyer were threatened with problems if they spoke to the Russian press. As Readovka managed to find out, Fedorov was detained upon appeal to Latvia by the European authorities - he is accused of cooperation with Russia and will be charged with treason. In particular, he is charged with cooperation with Russian intelligence.
The situation is complicated by the fact that Fedorov is a citizen of Latvia, and that pressure is being exerted on his relatives, who are currently in Riga - people are extremely intimidated and afraid to talk to anyone. It is obvious that the European authorities will use this case to put pressure on everyone who provides at least some media support to Russia. In modern Europe, there can no longer be two opinions on the issue of our country.
In further news, the ASB Telegram channel has removed its Ukraine content and announced it will no longer bring need from the Ukraine out of fear of government repression.
I love all the freedom, democracy and civil liberties we have in the west! We need NATO to defend ourselves against commie nazi tankie Putler who wants to come and take away our freeze peach.
Where is the alleged Putin propaganda? All I see is random videos about guns and a couple listicle type videos about weapons in Ukraine
the last videos talk about ukraine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRWVyZrXduQ
There's an awful lot of them if they're not real.
Several British newspaper websites seem to have published articles and pictures of people taped to poles with giddy headlines about Ukrainians "dealing with looters". They seem to have conspicuously not included those with (CW: SA ref)
spoiler
women stripped from the waist down in an apparent invitation to use rape as punishment
or apparently Roma people with their faces painted green.
Clenching my Mosin, hiding behind my upturned dinner table:
I hate the ukronazis. I hate the ukronazis. I hate the ukronazis.
I think twitter nuke it. Yes, there's some pretty sketchy stuff in Kiev right now, where a bunch of criminals get gun, and the place is lawless.
i archived a lot of the torture videos that juan Sinmiedo uploaded to to twitter
EDIT: https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/868112.html
you can right click and save these, and unlike webarchive, it loads pretty quick and isn't spotty with the streams
hate to be on leftypol, but it's more convenient than making my 5th streamable burner account
the same thing that's wrong with any chan-type board: unfiltered porn, gore, racial slurs, generally a hostile environment that cultivates fascist users. Even leftypol, which is ostensibly lefty, ends up crawling with nazbols and class reductionists.
but, in times of heavy censorship, chans can be useful for quickly posting videos/images that might get removed from mainstream websites. JuanSinmiedo @yourblacksoul on twitter posted a lot of videos of Ukrainian nazis whipping civilians and tying them to trees yesterday. Twitter removed these because it was contrary to US foreign policy narrative.
I have theories that the best way to inoculate white people against racism is to make them rabidly bigoted towards other Europeans in a semi ironic capacity, giving up the Xbox live contingent might have cost us down the line. With that said I am not terminally online so yeah I guess I’ll pass on lftypol.
no they suspended yourblacksoul's (Juan Sinmiedo's) account.
twitter.com/yourblacksoul
if you go to the individual tweets it says "age restricted" but the account and the tweets are gone
ooooooooooooh shit
well i'm happy to see they weren't taken out
that's what I get for trying to manually type a url
It’s soldiers doing the beating in many of the videos. Not just random marauders and criminals
Heard on CBC today that it was actually Russians torturing Ukrainian citizens :surprised-pika:
The level of disinfo is insane right now, just a totally false reality
Yes and youre the crazy one for saying the opposite of what they are spreading far and wide as the truth
'Possible compromise agreements with Russia, including on security guarantees, should be put for nationwide referendum, Ukrainian President Zelensky said on Monday.
"I explained to every negotiating team: when you are speaking about all these changes, they may be historic. We will come to a referendum," he said in an interview with TV companies, which was posted on the website of Ukraine’s Public television. "People will have to say and give an answer about these or those compromise formats. And what these compromises will be about is a matter of our talks and understanding between Ukraine and Russia. Anyway, I am ready to do everything which is needed if I am together with our people."
According to Zelensky, a "normal compromise" is a situation when Ukraine agrees to drop its NATO-wards plans but receives security guarantees from NATO member countries.'
How on earth are you going to perform a nationwide referendum when your country is actively in the process of being invaded and a significant portion is under foreign occupation?! And millions of Ukrainians have escaped the country already, are you getting their votes too? You, yourself, could end this whenever you wanted. You don't need to start printing fucking ballots.
Absolute fucking clown
Just have a referendum in the more reactionary western part of the country and say its legit
Stupidest bourgeois politician in living memory, a record that will be broken by every subsequent bourgeois politician.
Except he's doing this on purpose because he doesn't actually care how many people die.
well yeah. and it doesn't matter anyway, there's absolutely no way to guarantee any fairness here. every western org that checks to make sure elections are "legit" are gonna give them two big thumbs up even if there's video evidence, displayed by official Ukrainian sources, of Zelensky personally dumping anti-war ballots into a fire. It'll be a "based statement about how you can't vote out Russian fascism" or whatever the fuck.
He's not a clown, he's a puppet that the western capitalist control through NATO. Remember, there's no such thing as foolish leader, every move that the leaders make must conform to someone's interest, whether their nation, themselves, or the master behind them.
It doesn't sound like he's really serious about making a deal. "We're going ot have a referendum" just sounds like nonsense. Wasn't the whole point of the Maidan coup to consolidate power around the Ukrainian Nationalist faction? Why does he need a referendum?
lmao if there actually was a real (without rigging) referendum on this (hard in peace time) all the proles would vote to end the war because they don't want to be ground into paste
Do it zelensky, pull it off somehow and get owned by the proles
The referendum will, of course, wind up with whatever outcome he desires. So I guess the question is, does he want to:
- drum up more excuse to keep feeding people to the fodder mill, or
- is he trying to offload the blame for ending the war ("out of my hands") in the hopes that it'll save him from getting couped and/or assassinated by the U.S.-backed neo-Nazis?
Leftists in February 2022 be like:
:putin-wink: :cereal1: "he will never invade ukraine"
:ukkkraine: :cereal2:
:stuff: I just found out we had the cereal guy emote
It was mainly western leftist downplaying this
Go back and watch Grayzone interviews from January with people in the DPR, they were calling it and saying a war was coming.
The western left wasn’t ready to make a full throated attack against NATO imperialism on behalf of Russia, so instead they hedged by denying anything was happening at all
Ukrainians were also disbelieving. 3 days prior to invasion, Aljazeera reports only 20% of Ukrainians thought invasion was imminent: "https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/21/why-ukrainians-dont-believe-in-war-with-russia-distrust-west"
western left wasn’t ready to make a full throated attack against NATO imperialism
Shame
It totally made sense in hindsight, but I had no experience with US intelligence that was actually accurate so I couldn't believe it
US intelligence wasn't accurate - they declared a couple different invasion dates, and they were wrong. Joe Biden was the only one correct when he said an invasion would happen "this week" the week it happened.
how did the invasion work out for both parties? didn’t it hurt russian oil exports?
It seemed to make absolutely no sense in terms of Russia's geopolitical interests. Zelensky and the Ukrainians said they weren't expecting an invasion. The people hyping it up were all proven serial liars.
I don't see how it couldn't be expected if all the conditions were there. None of Putin's concerns were addressed all these years so I don't think he'd go "Eh don't worry about the NATO or Donetsk thing, water under the bridge".
Everyone just expected American hegemony to continue, usually ignored nations have to suck it up and deal with it (like Cuba or Iran). Only Russia and China have the might to make their demands forcibly known
absolutely no sense in terms of Russia’s geopolitical interests
Except the interest of making NATO look impotent by putting them in a position of being totally unwilling to make any sacrifice to actually act. It's really hard to beat an enemy that is used to a much lower living standard / hardship level.
Yeah, but that seemed to be outweighed by the negatives of turning Ukraine into another Afghanistan right on their border.
I didn't think it would happen until the Ukrainians starting shelling Donbass, then I was like nevermind it's gonna happen
I was following my general belief that nothing big and decisive ever happens and that everything is just a series of tiny nudges back and forth with a long-term tendency towards things getting slightly worse.
I still think I'm generally right but I was completely and totally wrong on this one.
"Moscow and Caracas are developing steps to connecting Venezuela to the Mir payment system and using the respective cards in Venezuela, Russia’s Ambassador to the republic Sergey Melik-Bagdasarov said in an interview with TASS"
and
"Venezuela and Russia intend to further develop their military-technical cooperation, Russia’s Ambassador to Venezuela Sergey Melik-Bagdasarov says"
by ASB. I take it the US talks didn't go too well?
also, maybe this was said earlier, but:
"Russian mass media watchdog bound to label Meta as an outlawed extremist organization. — this comes after Facebook allows calls for violence against Russians."
lmao
Reposting from last thread since it was just up for 10 minutes.
Seeing claims on twitter that Roma are being targeted with the same lynching tactics as the supposed “looters” and “marauders” in the previously linked thread.
At the very least seeing more pictures of women and potentially some kids tied to trees and poles with their faces painted green.
Also seeing people in the replies doubting that the tape could hold a person against their will, but clearly in some of the images they are surrounded by soldiers still, so resisting would be dangerous.
These people obv never done bdsm, tape can easily restrain a person
That's so fucking stupid, they are obviously heavily taped. This is honestly fucking horrific.
just flex your muscles and explode the tape and your shirt off like in my cartoons, duh
It's a game or a movie to these people. Not real human beings being abused. Just break the tape and run, in every movie the good guys escape from the bad soldiers!
Eh, I used such tape and if you wrap it a couple of times it can easily hold persons and if in multiple layers a multitude of what human maximum strength is.
Sure you might be able to wiggle a bit, but those people that diminish what those torturous acts and involuntary restraints are should be slapped for diminishing it in the first place.
Most everybody has used cellophane wrap before. It's almost not adhesive at all, and it's incredibly weak, but you wrap it around a few times and that shit is impenetrable. I would reckon most everyone has seen the cellophane wrap used to keep massive shipping pallets together. Same shit. These people just want any justification to continue to be boot lickers.
Someone on the CNN said Russia was returning to the Soviet era just without the communism.
And then I realized this is what Libs actually feel. Soviet is a vibe.
GenZedong: Declassified CIA documents regarding the Nazification of Ukraine - Project AERODYNAMIC
The declassification in 2016 of more than 3,800 documents from the Central Intelligence Agency provides detailed evidence that since 1948 the CIA has been conducting operations to Nazify Ukraine through the followers of the Ukrainian fascist Stepan Bandera.
Description of ActivitY: Project AERODYNAMIC is the principal vehicle through which SS Division conducts its operations against the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. The main purpose of the project is to exploit contacts with Soviet Ukrainian citizens in order to encourage national and intellectual unrest in the Ukrainian SSR, thus encouraging cultural and intellectual freedom for Soviet citivens. CIA has been in contact with the ZP/UHVR (Foreign Representation of the Ukrainian Supreme Liberation Council) since 1950. Anti-Soviet propaganda activities were begun from Now York by a panel of the ZP/USTR in 1953. As of 1966, all activities and all publications, with the exception of the Information Bulletin, originated in Europe.
https://cryptome.org/2016/01/cia-ua-aerodynamic.pdf
and in the comments, a 1982 Washington Post article about Belarusian Nazi collaborators and their connection to US intelligence
There was a CBS 60 Minutes episode talking about it that aired that year but it's been scrubbed online I can't find it anymore.
