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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to this if you can, thank you.

Links

Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ukraine/@49.1162725,31.7993839,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d1d9c154700e8f:0x1068488f64010!8m2!3d48.379433!4d31.1655799?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1B1PLMhbHmG1aJ2-QNxHY1TksI6HlNhqF&ll=48.60777942568106%2C36.4496511633501&z=7

Leftist discussion threads:

https://hexbear.net/post/177324

https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/ :kitty-cri-texas:

https://lemmygrad.ml/

Twitter military updaters:

https://nitter.42l.fr/RWApodcast

https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary :kitty-cri:

https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet

https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike

https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael

https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518

https://www.youtube.com/c/DefensePoliticsAsia/videos

obvious disclaimers about taking all of them with tonnes of salt etc

Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413

Better war/propaganda analysis:

https://www.understandingwar.org

https://www.moonofalabama.org/

News updates:

https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html

Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html

YT/Video in Ukraine:

https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/videos

https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTe

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  • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Just posted on the other thread about how Twitter is responding to the fall of Mariupol:

    In response to citizens now actually being able to leave, Ukrainian propaganda Twitter (and all the libs retweeting mindlessly) are falsely claiming that anywhere between 5k-25k Mariupol citizens have actually been forced onto buses at gunpoint and will be taken to “camps” before being forced to relocate to Russia. Usually with unrelated pictures of train cars to really hammer the sick insinuation home.

    In response to there being lots of video and pictures of Russia bring in and handing out humanitarian aid to people in the city now they control it, the pro-Ukraine people are actively denying it and claiming that Russia is bombing all incoming humanitarian aid. I’m seeing the endlessly repeated line of “children drinking water out of radiators to not die of thirst” in a very unnatural way.

    Just total denial / inversion of reality stuff.

    • Wildgrapes [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Wait did mariupol finally fall? I'm not seeing recent headlines but this would be great news. Azov can stop butchering people who try and leave

      • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        They hoisted the Russian flag up on the admin building, just clean up the rest at this point

      • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Not sure they claim every street, but yeah basically. Seems like Russia / DPR now control the vast majority, lots of footage of dead Azov nazis in the tower blocks they'd apparently retreated back to and been firing from for the last 24hrs or so. Chechen forces apparently mopping up odd Azov members trying to escape or cut off on the other side of the industrial area on the other edge of the city. Russian / DPR forces have also been raising flags over government buildings apparently.

        • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Fuck Putin but critical support for Russian forces

          In case of Mariupol they kinda are liberators

    • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
      ·
      3 years ago

      This sounds like a stock accusation, like I definitely heard "kidnapped into camps on the mainland" thing with the HK protests.

      • eddies [he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        really grinds my gears to call it deportation, like russia wants them to settle in the urals or something

      • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        For those accusations, they mostly seem to have started from nationalist writers at the Kyiv Independent and spread from there.

        In general I'm just trying to aggregate what seems likely from multiple sources, all the usual Western sources, pro-Ukrainian Twitter (which is most of it at this point), and varying degrees of pro-Russian accounts mostly on Telegram like InterSlava, MangoPress, Russians With Attitude podcast and some accounts that nuked by Twitter.

        I try to take it all with a pinch of salt and I find the rah-rah nationalism on both sides a bit gross, but it's the best we're gonna get in knowing what's actually going amidst the fog of war.

    • Vncredleader
      ·
      3 years ago

      Same shit they pulled with Venezuela and Syria

    • SoyViking [he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      Mariupol has a Russian majority population and is part of the DPR. It makes sense that citizens who wants to leave the city for somewhere safer choose to go east instead of West where they're likely to be lynched by banderites for being too Russian.

      • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Exactly. Even if I didn't have any Russian connection I wouldn't want to stay in a captured city that potentially might suffer a counter attack by Nazi zealots where a good chunk of it is rubble anyway. I'd head away from the front lines and at this point that means going deeper into Russian held territory rather than trying to outrun the front to the West.

    • catposter [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      obviously the west is pushing propaganda hard, but why would Russia give humanitarian aid? They're another country motivated by profit, I'm confused

      • riley
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        1 year ago

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      • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        For the reasons Riley said below and because despite it being the home of Azov, Mariupol has lots of Russian speaking and ethnic Russian people. Lots of people have family and friends in Russia or the other parts of the East that Russia is trying to unite/give independence. Regardless of any other objectives (toppling the Zelensky gov, demilitarisation of Ukraine etc) if they don't achieve that they know people in those regions and at home will see it as a failure.

      • voice_of_hermes [he/him,any]
        ·
        3 years ago

        why would Russia give humanitarian aid? They’re another country motivated by profit, I’m confused

        Pre-populated cities are generally more exploitable than empty wastelands. It takes time and money to bring in people to do labor.

  • SoyViking [he/him]
    ·
    3 years ago

    Germany decided to turn off the gas rather than paying for it in rubles. Too bad, I liked living in a continent with a somewhat functioning economy.

  • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
    ·
    3 years ago

    Very fucking scary how hard the west is driving the narrative that Russia is preparing to use chemical weapons and NATO will intervene if they do.

    • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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      3 years ago

      "If they were to use chemical weapons, that would definitely effect my cal- you know the thing. They'd be crossing a red line."

      • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Listen, jack! I went up to Mr. Putin and I said, "If you use bio... biolog... you know the thing. If you use those weapons, then, I said, he'll be up shit creek with no paddle!" I'm sorry, I didn't mean to swear, ah, dang, I... well, the point I'm trying to make is that Putin might wanna use 'em! So watch out. I remember, back in the 60s, my dad - god could he drive, I mean, man, he was... the uh... the 60s, as I said, back then, we had the Vietnam War on, and well, we had a mighty amount of trouble with those fellas over there, and we don't want that to happen, uh, again, because that would be a bad thing to happen. Had biological agents used in that one, I think... well, that's not important. Ukraine is important, and we all know that, and, and we need to make sure they stay safe.

    • Esoteir [he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      there are two wolves inside of me

      :scared: :sadness-abysmal:

  • Teekeeus
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    23 days ago

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      • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
        ·
        3 years ago

        my dad was saying this, going "well if Putin wants to denazify places, how about he goes after America huh?". the correct response is to say "yes, I think they should die too"

        • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
          ·
          3 years ago

          “Oh, you don’t like nazis? Do you think Russia should kill all the nazis in Germany too?”

          “well if Putin wants to denazify places, how about he goes after America huh?”

          :yes-chad: :yes-sicko: :yes-comm: and :sicko-yes::yes-hahaha-yes-l:

        • leredditor99 [he/him,none/use name]
          ·
          3 years ago

          At the very least they try to hide it in literally every other country's military, not literally having nazi symbols in your damn logo.

    • Donut
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      1 year ago

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    • RandyLahey [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      isnt that the goldman sachs guy?

      wall street ghouls defending hitler :shocked-pikachu:

      • Teekeeus
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        23 days ago

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    • Xenomork [they/them]
      ·
      3 years ago

      Scratch a li.....hey wait I haven't even scratched you yet! :pit:

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      "If you do this thing that you have not stated any intention of doing or shown any evidence that you intend to do we will be so very cross with you".

      Projection and cope. The US always trots out chemical weapons and WMDs when it's reaching for a causus belli.

    • voice_of_hermes [he/him,any]
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      3 years ago

      The top reply is pretty awesome:

      sometimes famous people would write a letter, put it in the desk drawer, and give it a good night's sleep before deciding to send it

  • HarryLime [any]
    ·
    3 years ago

    Some people on twitter are saying Azov is more or less destroyed.

    :crab-party: if true

      • lil_pee_pee [they/them]
        ·
        3 years ago

        At the very least, my major worry was that Ukraine would turn into Afghanistan and that this insurgency would cripple the country until capitalism collapses

        And

        1. it seems like every elected official is trying to get it to collapse
        2. The opinion on the military for the average Ukrainian citizen seems to be fucking dogshit at this point seeing as they've probably killed more people trying to flee than Russians.
      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Tell them that 32% of Ukrainians approve of Bandera and that fascists don't aim to operate though electoral politics directly.

        How many elections did Hitler win again?

    • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
      ·
      3 years ago

      Have you seen this photo of the Wagner guy though?

      We should get an emote of that guy titled :whataboutism:

    • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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      edit-2
      3 years ago

      This loser on copium overdose implying that western media is actually secretly pro-Russia and that's why they keep interviewing Nazis, and not, just you know, they know their audience is ignorant or ambivalent about totenkopfs.

  • amber2 [she/her,they/them]
    ·
    3 years ago

    I'm a little late, but I finally looked at telegram and I liked this one

    Today, the Azov Regiment of the National Guard of Ukraine has suffered the biggest losses since its inception. We can say that it no longer exists as a single unit, - a source familiar with the situation

    :wholesome:

  • jabrd [he/him]
    ·
    3 years ago

    Yo it’s awesome that we’re totally redoing Afghanistan with the mujahideen again but in Europe. Even without the openly fash groups, even if the Ukrainian fighting force was completely ideologically neutral, we’re arming a group that fundamentally in a war because we used and abused them to our own ends with no intention of ever paying it back. Years of letting Hunter Biden sandblast hookers with cocaine just to have your house demolished by Russian missile attacks and now NATO and the west are nowhere to be seen. Good thing armed angry nationalists have never blown back onto the US

    • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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      edit-2
      3 years ago

      Yo it’s awesome that we’re totally redoing Afghanistan with the mujahideen again but in Europe

      to be fair the whole mujahideen rigamarole was really just a repeat of operation gladio and various latam coups, but in Taraki's Afghanistan

  • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    :geordi-no: Closing the megathread is like 1984. :1984:

    :geordi-yes: Starting new megathreads like it's 1999 :party-blob:

    • Donut
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      1 year ago

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  • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
    ·
    3 years ago

    westerners watching this war are so propagandised. like the TV was on at dinner yesterday and my dad and I discussed the war as the BBC report was on. and he kept saying Russia was unable to take cities, while I literally paused the TV on the BBCs map to show them encircling all the cities and the solid 3rd of Ukraine they already have.

    but all they wanna hear is ' :so-true: wholesome 100 Zelensky is saving the world from Putin. They will win! Putin bit off more than he can chew!!!' without any critical look at the fucking map getting more and more red every day in front of them. like bro, did they say this same shit about Poland in 1939 lmao

  • leredditor99 [he/him,none/use name]
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    edit-2
    3 years ago

    :reddit-logo: Ukrainians kill over 6 gajillion russian soldiers, the Russians are demoralized conscripts using old rusty guns from the early soviet-era [and other totally unfounded claims] :yes-chad: "Yes this is true, I do not need any further verification. I can accept this at face-value."

    :reddit-logo: :alex-no-supplements: "Ukrainians are tying people to trees and beating them? I do not believe you, all of these videos appear to be doctored. I will require analysis from several independent sources to confirm the authenticity of the aforementioned post. I believe you may be a Putinshill operating from within the territory of the Russian Federation and I do not trust you. HOW MANY rubles is he paying you?"

    • eduardog3000 [he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      I believe you may be a Putinshill operating from within the territory of the Russian Federation

      Wrong. I'm a wumao on loan to Russia.

      • RandyLahey [he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        im still getting paid in sorosbux, anyone know how to convert them to rubles?

        • catposter [comrade/them]
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          edit-2
          3 years ago

          i recommend offering to give sorosbux and sex to people, in exchange you will get rubles

        • voice_of_hermes [he/him,any]
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          edit-2
          3 years ago

          WTF?! I'm still waiting to get my first paycheck from the stingy fucker after like 5 long years of this trolling and outside agitator shit. I was starting to think maybe the problem is that I was supposed to be getting paid in rubles the whole time.

          :soros: 💸 ❓

    • TankieTanuki [he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      Just ask the Ukrainians! They posted the videos to Telegram themselves because they're proud of their "vigilante justice".

    • voice_of_hermes [he/him,any]
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      edit-2
      3 years ago

      I got a DM in :reddit-logo: from some user who wanted to know whether another specific mod in a sub I moderate hadn't commented in a couple weeks because "ThE SaNcTioNs aRe ShuTTinG DowN RuSSiaN TRoLL FaRmS" and the timing was just Too CoiNciDenTaL. It was couched in very concern-trolly fashion with shit like, "I don't want to believe it, BUT...." LMAO.

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
      ·
      3 years ago

      Ukrainians are tying people to trees and beating them? I do not believe you, all of these videos appear to be doctored. I will require analysis from several independent sources to confirm the authenticity of the aforementioned post. I believe you may be a Putinshill operating from within the territory of the Russian Federation and I do not trust you. HOW MANY rubles is he paying you?

      What I saw was mostly "oh, that tape couldn't hold them, this is obviously fake" since a lot of people were just tied to poles with tape. Like, of course, it's just the tape holding them there, how silly. Definitely no threats of violence if they tried to escape (you could even see some fatigues wearing man at the edge of one of the pictures).

      It could well be fake, but from what we definitively know about Ukraine and their treatment of ethnic minorities and LGBTQ over their history, and (presumably) their current treatment of anyone they deem to be a Russian sympathizer...I'm not really giving benefit of the doubt here.

      • leredditor99 [he/him,none/use name]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Packing tape is pretty strong especially when your arms are secured it's not easy to just break free and there's clearly an abundance of evidence for it

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    edit-2
    3 years ago

    MFW mods close the mega:dean-frown:

    MFW a new mega is opened and theres reports of hundreds of dead Nazis:dean-smile:

  • riley
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    edit-2
    1 year ago

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