Thank you @SeventyTwoTrillion for all your effort. :sankara-salute:
If you have any useful resource links please tag me in a comment with the link:
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict
Add to this if you can, thank you.
Links
Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ukraine/@49.1162725,31.7993839,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d1d9c154700e8f:0x1068488f64010!8m2!3d48.379433!4d31.1655799?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1B1PLMhbHmG1aJ2-QNxHY1TksI6HlNhqF&ll=48.60777942568106%2C36.4496511633501&z=7
Leftist discussion threads:
https://hexbear.net/post/177324
https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/ :kitty-cri-texas:
https://lemmygrad.ml/
Twitter military updaters:
https://nitter.42l.fr/RWApodcast
https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary :kitty-cri:
https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet
https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike
https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael
https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518
https://www.youtube.com/c/DefensePoliticsAsia/videos
obvious disclaimers about taking all of them with tonnes of salt etc
Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413
Better war/propaganda analysis:
https://www.understandingwar.org
https://www.moonofalabama.org/
News updates:
https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html
Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html
YT/Video in Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/videos
https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTe
Previous megathreads
!news@hexbear.net RSS Feed https://hexbear.net/feeds/c/news.xml
This particular twitter thread on burcha.
The war news most people here get from telegram sources, ASB Military on twitter before they deleted their account, DPA who is just some guy also reading from telegram sources. Patrick Lancaster is posting almost daily videos of civilian deaths. Brian/The New Atlas is posting frequent updates too, though I like his China content more.
The Ukrainian sources including official accounts on telegram are straight up useless propaganda. Here is a comparison video between Russian and Ukrainian telegram sources
And of course @SeventyTwoTrillion is posting a lot of stuff here too.
The twitter thread was interesting. I'm not entirely sure what it's supposed to prove- what stood out to me was the video posted- despite that it's unclear what was said or if someone actually was shot, somebody did ask if they could shoot somebody, and maybe already had, if they thought that was okay to ask. I also have no doubt that some people were killed by Ukrainian shelling. But with the sheer amount of people killed and eyewitness accounts it does fail to convince me that there was not a massacre by Russian forces. He also accuses the NYT of moving a body, and by extension deliberately spreading fake news. The body looks to be in the same place to me, and the NYT deliberately spreading fake news would be as far as I know unprecedented. I wouldn't really trust what I hear from Russian- or Ukrainian, for that matter- news on Telegram, though. That seems to be mainly a platform to spread propaganda to try to get people who read it on your side.
Ok so
-The satellite images are already proven to be highly questionable and inconclusive, even the NYT admits the satellite alone can't prove how those people were killed.
-We know some of the civilians have white armbands which the Russians use to mark friendly collaborators. Why would they massacre them?
-I am hoping you are already aware the curious case of the mayor that didn't mention a massacre when he celebrated Russians leaving.
-As the twitter thread alone gives a dozen different points against the narrative:
Video of Ukraine shelling on Russia troops captured by drone.
Video of Ukraine troops asking if they can shoot civilians.
Video of civilian with tied hands and white armbands(Russian supporters)
What is more likely?
That Russia somehow committed a large irrational mass murder of civilians many of which were sympathizers despite very obvious military doctrine against this throughout the whole war?
That Burcha was under constant shelling for most of the month, the bodies are most likely from different events at different days and as Russia decides to retreat the Ukrainian army decides to try yet again to frame another mass murder scene while giving no explanation or signs of regret for their own nazis conducts including doing these same sort of executions.
We have a literal dozens of videos of people being lynched in public, we know Azov used human shields, they are torturing Russian POWs etc
:shrug-outta-hecks:
You want to live in a world where some guy in front of a TV or some editor for a fancy three letter newspaper earning 6 figures is a trustworthy figure but thousands of people crowdsourcing real videos during a war is "fake news".
I can't imagine being you in 2002-2003 honestly but I guess everyone has to go through this stage I guess.
https://www.npu.gov.ua/news/stoprussia/speczpriznachenczi-naczpolicziji-rozpochali-zachistku-mista-bucha/
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3445989-bucha-liberated-from-russian-invaders-mayor.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7yIyNBMpQY
Exactly how many dead constitutes a massacre in your opinion?
https://twitter.com/JamesAALongman/status/1511425069372817410 Maybe something like this?
You know people can die in warzones without malicious intent?
Yes, however this is not what happened, did you read the thread? There's no point in denying Russian atrocities, just because the USA denounces them.
Im not saying average russian soldier is a saint but Bucha discourse is very clearly a propaganda operation on scale alone. We will see if there is any viable investigation.