Thank you @SeventyTwoTrillion for all your effort. :sankara-salute:

Old Map for reference

If you have any useful resource links please tag me in a comment with the link:

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to this if you can, thank you.

Links

Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ukraine/@49.1162725,31.7993839,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d1d9c154700e8f:0x1068488f64010!8m2!3d48.379433!4d31.1655799?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1B1PLMhbHmG1aJ2-QNxHY1TksI6HlNhqF&ll=48.60777942568106%2C36.4496511633501&z=7

Leftist discussion threads:

https://hexbear.net/post/177324

https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/ :kitty-cri-texas:

https://lemmygrad.ml/

Twitter military updaters:

https://nitter.42l.fr/RWApodcast

https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary :kitty-cri:

https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet

https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike

https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael

https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518

https://www.youtube.com/c/DefensePoliticsAsia/videos

obvious disclaimers about taking all of them with tonnes of salt etc

Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413

Better war/propaganda analysis:

https://www.understandingwar.org

https://www.moonofalabama.org/

News updates:

https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html

Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html

YT/Video in Ukraine:

https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/videos

https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTe

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  • WhyEssEff [she/her]
    ·
    3 years ago

    They’re really trying to push this Z hate symbol shit huh? Trying to say it’s the new swastika? God damn.

    I think there hasn’t been another year I’ve pulled my Jew card as much as I have in 2022. We’ve gotten to the point that take-havers are openly connecting this military op to the fucking Holocaust. While simultaneously saying it’s worse and actually the Holocaust wasn’t that bad and it was actually the red army that did more crimes and did you know the Russians have a crime gene- er, cultural leaning towards crime! I’m a progressive, btw! :very-intelligent:

    Never in my life have I witnessed the hypernormalization of fascist rhetoric on this scale at this speed. Millennial and older comrades, is this what it was like after 9/11? I hate it here :what-the-hell:

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
      ·
      3 years ago

      9/11 was a little before current political splits occurred, like red state blue state were new terms back then. So back then it felt like liberals and conservatives weren't as distinct for one thing.

      There was a very immediate unification among Americans that all Muslims needed to be exterminated immediately. It was more severe than anything we have now, unless there have been incidents of Russian speakers getting murdered or Orthodox churches getting vandalized. Because that happened. Sikh people wearing turbans would get murdered. The nightly news would be endless stories of nefarious Al Qaeda plots everywhere. There was that completely fabricated story about the giant mountain compound.

      Everyone was afraid too back then, like the US was going to get invaded and destroyed within a matter of weeks. The lead up to the Iraq War was a horrifying parade of state department ghouls being given full authority to rile up the public into despising countries they had never even heard of.

      Also recruiters were everywhere. Military propaganda in every ad, before movies, in the movies, in the mouths of your relatives.

        • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Yeah we had one of those in front of my school too. The most evil thing we did were flag prayers, where the students would circle around the American flag every morning, hold hands, and pray for the longevity and safety of the USA. It was encouraged by teachers at first, then became a self-directed thing by the students. One kid got featured in the local news for his ardent strict adherence to daily flagpole prayers.

          There's simply nothing like that now that I know of. Post 9/11 George W. USA, like 2001 to around 2007, was simply evil on a level I can't begin to describe. Social panics everywhere, people getting fired for lack of appropriate patriotism, songs on the radio censored. It was real, real bad. People seem bloodthirsty and fascist now but it just doesn't compare to back then. People now are more worn out and tired.

        • SaniFlush [any, any]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Is there a link to further reading on this? I barely remember the anthrax scare...

      • SoyViking [he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Someone tried to set a Russian school in Berlin on fire. Luckily it was an amateurish attempt and little damage was done.

        The Russian orthodox church in Copenhagen was graffitied with Z-symbols despite having expressed sympathy for the suffering of the Ukrainian people and organising aid for refugees.

        I don't think there has been major violent attacks on civilian Russian targets abroad yet. But we're getting closer to it the more hate and Russophobia the propaganda machine churns out. At some point stochastic terrorism will happen.

        • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
          ·
          3 years ago

          I'm going to anticipate attacks on Russian people and orthodox churches are going to be something mainly in Europe where people might have a better idea of how to even identify Russians That's going to fucking suck and I'm pessimistic about it since I know some countries are already getting into racist panics because they're accepting refugees.

          Here in the states the most likely to violently attack someone out of xenophobia would be our chuds, except half of them love Putin and the other half think Gorbachev is still president. I doubt either of them could identify the Russian language from hearing it except maybe some of the smarter fascists.

        • newerAccountWhoDis [they/them]
          ·
          3 years ago

          The Russian orthodox church in Copenhagen was graffitied with Z-symbols despite having expressed sympathy for the suffering of the Ukrainian people and organising aid for refugees.

          It was vandalized because they expressed sympathy for Ukraine. Nazis and Russian nationalists in Europe are unironically using the Z symbol to show support for the Russian army.

      • MoreAmphibians [none/use name]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Orthodox churches getting vandalized.

        This has been happening, although mostly in Canada. Probably because that's where a lot of Ukrainian Nazis went after they lost WW2.

        • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
          ·
          3 years ago

          I honestly thought it had been happening but had tried to be more optimistic. Goddammit I'm so tired.

          • MoreAmphibians [none/use name]
            ·
            3 years ago

            Orthodox churches often have Greek or Russian in the name. I doubt most Canadians are aware that Ukrainians will still go to a Russian Orthodox church. They just see Russian and want to do some petty vandalism,

    • eddies [he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      Really does a number on you don’t it . How thin the blanket of civilization really is.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      Yeah, this was kind of what it was like after 9/11. America went from not knowing what Muslims were to visceral hatred of Muslims and calls to nuke various muslim countries overnight. The media was in perfect lockstep demanding blood and vengeance. smart people who should have known better turned in to racist warmongers overnight. Displays of patriotism became louder and more effusive, "Support the troops" became an all encompassing thought terminating cliche.

    • TheOtherwise [none/use name]
      ·
      3 years ago

      Not related to the fascist rhetoric, but one interesting difference I feel is that post-9/11 mostly had the vibe of "we must respond!! This cannot go unanswered! We will righteously punish them! We will end terrorism!" while this time there's an undercurrent of "Are we losing our grip on the world....?" Of course, that undercurrent is shaken off but I think it's still simmering there--even to those who do not subscribe to leftist ideas.

      • SoyViking [he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        The big difference here is that the US is guaranteed to lose a war against Russia instantly so the powers that be can't let that bloodlust develop into actual war. It's going to be the cold war over again, only this time it will be as farce.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
      ·
      3 years ago

      Millennial and older comrades, is this what it was like after 9/11?

      I'm not that old to remember much from that time, but I remember my math teacher telling me that he got stopped by the TSA or whatever when visiting the US for some teaching conference or something, because he had a beard back then, and they mistook his surname as one of Arabic origin.

      This was a Afrikaans guy with slightly darker skin. That's how insane the fervour was back then I guess.

    • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
      ·
      3 years ago

      It's weird being a jew and having to watch liberals completely erase the history of using ethnic conflict as a tool for protecting the Ukraine ruling class.

      Holocaust denialism :unity: Not reading Marx