Thank you @SeventyTwoTrillion for all your effort. :sankara-salute:

Old Map for reference

If you have any useful resource links please tag me in a comment with the link:

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.

Links

Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ukraine/@49.1162725,31.7993839,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d1d9c154700e8f:0x1068488f64010!8m2!3d48.379433!4d31.1655799?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1B1PLMhbHmG1aJ2-QNxHY1TksI6HlNhqF&ll=48.60777942568106%2C36.4496511633501&z=7

Leftist discussion threads:

https://hexbear.net/post/177324

https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/ :kitty-cri-texas:

https://lemmygrad.ml/

Others:

http://thesaker.is/. (Right wing pro Russian , little unhinged about covid , but interesting war analysis, gets quoted by naked capitalism )

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/ukraine-conflict-updates

( the institute for understanding war link being a neocon American exceptionalism plaything from the kagan family)

Resource for unedited RusFed/Ukraine press conferences/speeches

https://invidious.snopyta.org/channel/UCo-P9gyWGjOkdquRBt0zowQ/videos

Twitter military updaters:

https://nitter.42l.fr/RWApodcast

https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary :kitty-cri:

https://nitter.42l.fr/ArmchairW

https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet

https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike

https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael

https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518

https://www.youtube.com/c/DefensePoliticsAsia/videos

Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413

https://www.understandingwar.org

https://www.moonofalabama.org/

News updates:

https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html

Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html

YT/Video in Ukraine:

https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/videos

https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTe

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  • Awoo [she/her]
    ·
    3 years ago

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/russia-halted-gas-supplies-poland-152059894.html

    Bruh what the fuck is Bulgaria doing????? You get 90% of your gas from Russia you can't just say "yeah we're not paying".

    What the fuck is wrong with these countries? Do they think ideals will change the material realities that they live in? Have they seriously snorted their own farts so hard that they've come to believe that?

    It will be a week before literally all industry in the country grinds to a halt in order to keep houses powered. It will be 2-4 weeks before all houses also lose power, by then absolutely massive protests will have formed over the entirety of industry shutting down and nobody having a job to go to.

    These countries are fucking suicidal what the fuck are they thinking. Poland is less-so since they get 40% of their gas from Russia but it's still absolutely bonkers for them to be doing this too.

    Both countries are going to go to shit within the next month if a RADICAL solution doesn't happen within literal days.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      It's kind of wild to watch an economic and political cascade failure happen in real time. Turns out that in the final accounting the ownership of real resources matters more than money that only exists on paper.

      • Awoo [she/her]
        ·
        3 years ago

        It's wild knowing EXACTLY what this will cause and being able to scream about it and they will do this stupidity anyway.

        No gas. No industry.

        No industry. Mass loss of jobs.

        Mass loss of jobs. Very angry population.

        That's it, very simple. There is no sense in it at all.

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
        ·
        3 years ago

        “In the land of Ugarit there is a severe hunger. May my Lord save it, and may the king give grain to save my life…and to save the citizens of the land of Ugarit,”

        -King of Ugarit to Pharaoh Seti II, unsent before Ugarit's destruction

        "My father, behold, the enemy's ships came (here); my cities(?) were burned, and they did evil things in my country. Does not my father know that all my troops and chariots(?) are in the Land of Hatti, and all my ships are in the Land of Lukka? ... Thus, the country is abandoned to itself. May my father know it: the seven ships of the enemy that came here inflicted much damage upon us"

        -King of Ugarit to Cyprus

        "As for the matter concerning those enemies: (it was) the people from your country (and) your own ships (who) did this! And (it was) the people from your country (who) committed these transgression(s)...I am writing to inform you and protect you. Be aware!"

        -Cyprus' response to Ugarit.

        Fun fact, the collapse was so complete survivors/raiders didn't even bother to dig up their hordes of gold and precious goods.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
          ·
          3 years ago

          The Bronze Age collapse is deeply terrifying. All these huge, prosperous cities just destroyed almost at the same time, by alien invaders no one could stop or even identify.

          • Mardoniush [she/her]
            ·
            3 years ago

            Love how Ramases III was like "yeah...they were everyone I hate, what a coincidence, anyway kicked their asses, please don't look too closely at this decade's border changes or grain tax totals"

          • sharedburdens [she/her, comrade/them]
            ·
            3 years ago

            are fully aware of the grave state of our climate reproduce establishment rationales as soon as its politically convenient. Honestly forcing Europe into a gas shock is one of the silver linings here. We need to eliminate most natural gas consumption in the next few decades anyway. If Europe committing hara-kiri at the behest of the US is what it takes

            It's speculative, but I always read those "invaders" as a symptom of the collapse itself- mercenaries and tribes that had worked with those cities in the past would start to see them as places to raid for supplies as trade networks were strained by inter-city wars.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      It's wild how Russia went from an isolated and shunned outsider to dictating the terms by which Europe lives or dies in a matter of weeks.

    • BigLadKarlLiebknecht [he/him, comrade/them]
      ·
      3 years ago

      It’s incredible listening to coverage of this on :ukkk: radio news and it being portrayed as a massive self-own by Russia as it will be impossible for Russia to find another market for it. Nothing about material impacts to countries losing their hydrocarbon supplies.

      • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Spot on.

        I know it's pedantry but I'm so sick of British media using the phrase "major escalation" too. Everything can't be a major escalation. Invading was a major escalation. Making the sales decision for a specific product, with plenty of loopholes still, in exactly the way you said you would a month ago is not a major escalation.

        It's ludicrous. What's next, "Russian Twitter account calls NATO rude name in major escalation of Russia-Ukraine war"?

      • CheGueBeara [he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Brits' logic makes sense because Russia infamously shares few borders across several continents.

      • meme_monster [none/use name]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Russia as it will be impossible for Russia to find another market for it.

        Aw shit. Democracy Now just aired a segment saying the same. Subliminal Jihad was right about Pacifica being an op I guess.

      • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
        ·
        3 years ago

        fossil fuels, famously not in high demand across the entire world. I'm pretty sure India just expanded their gas imports from Russia because Russia gave them a good price

    • Cunigulus [they/them]
      ·
      3 years ago

      It's fun to watch people who doubtless are fully aware of the grave state of our climate reproduce establishment rationales as soon as its politically convenient. Honestly forcing Europe into a gas shock is one of the silver linings here. We need to eliminate most natural gas consumption in the next few decades anyway. If Europe committing hara-kiri at the behest of the US is what it takes to ready the way for that adaptation so be it. One of the facts that gets lost in the knee-jerk anti-imperialism is that Russia is basically the only country besides the US, Australia, and Gulf petrostates that is actively working to prevent acknowledgement of and measures to prevent climate change. It's also probably the only country that actually has a long-term material interest in letting climate change rip (tons of land that's relatively useless due to it being too cold, little developed coastal infrastructure). Russian ascendancy doesn't bode well for the planet uniting to tackle climate change. The current course of events, however, seems like almost the best possible outcome of the war. It's looking like Russia is going to have to go through a bloody slog to take the more Russian cultural areas of Ukraine, leaving it with little appetite for further conquest along with a strengthened state that has had to mobilize Soviet nostalgia to legitimize it's rule (probably the last time in history this would be possible) - maybe something good can come of this. Meanwhile the western-dominated world order will have been destabilized and delegitimated through defeat and the overextension of economic sanctions as a tool of control. The perfect stage for the ascendancy of China will be set, and if they rediscover leftist politics as a means of fighting this new cold war we might not be as perma-fucked as we thought.

    • eduardog3000 [he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      by then absolutely massive protests will have formed

      If that leads to revolution, I have a feeling that wouldn't be of the communist variety.

      • Awoo [she/her]
        ·
        3 years ago

        It'll just be angry workers initially. They won't have any specific ideology until they get targeted, they could be picked up by anyone it really depends on what political leaders manage to become voices in the developing situation that occurs.

        Potentially the industrialists might spark it off intentionally, which means it'll be workers with industrial bourgeoisie leadership.

        edit: But who knows? They might look at the complete collapse of these industries as opportunities to loot these countries?

        • meme_monster [none/use name]
          ·
          3 years ago

          they could be picked up by anyone it really depends on what political leaders manage to become voices in the developing situation that occurs.

          Inside hexbear there are two botnets. One that posts ppb dunks on neolib twitter, and the other that posts theory and brings enlightenment to the lumpen.

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
        ·
        3 years ago

        I think Bulgaria is so captured by capital at this point even the Fascists would struggle to coherently organise. Possibly other orgs like trade unions will come to the fore.

      • Awoo [she/her]
        ·
        3 years ago

        I mean like... Germany/Greece buys it puts it on trucks and then drives it over the border or something else equally stupid.

        That works too though.

        • SoyViking [he/him]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Still a major price increase and economic strain. And Russia still gets paid.

      • Awoo [she/her]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Not sure about them specifically but the timescales I do know are Germany's which I looked into quite a lot when this all started. They could last 1-2 weeks before they would need to shut down industry, then another 1-2 weeks after that with no industry. A month or so in total before homes would be without power. This assumes rationing and cycling the grid doesn't go into effect where you would essentially turn on certain sections for limited periods of time allowing only sections of the country to have power for set periods of time.

        The reserves could be different in those countries but my assumption is most of EU operates with similar mindsets and copies policy on this stuff from one another. Even if it's double you're still only talking an extra month. A month, two months, three months? The difference is not enormous and 90% is still 90% that has to come from somewhere.

        • anoncpc [comrade/them]
          ·
          3 years ago

          With these politicians, they probably just copy and paste, just like how they do it when they got their degree.

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
          ·
          3 years ago

          This assumes rationing and cycling the grid doesn’t go into effect where you would essentially turn on certain sections for limited periods of time allowing only sections of the country to have power for set periods of time

          It will go into effect if the European leaders are as idealistic as they seem.

          Load shedding is coming to Europe lmaooo.

          I'm sorry for being callous, but all the people that left South Africa to escape load shedding and went to Europe, and now they're going to get it because of idealistic USA puppets.

          :data-laughing: :michael-laugh: :capitalist-laugh:

          :youre-laughing:

          :joker-troll:

        • Cunigulus [they/them]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Germany tends to be remarkably responsible when it comes to things like this. I'd be surprised if any other non-producing European countries had more substantial reserves.

          • eddies [he/him]
            ·
            3 years ago

            There was actually a police(?) raid on the Gazprom subsidiary that was tasked with the storage of gas when it was privatized (:data-laughing:) and they are now under a German trust management regime after allegations that they intentionally only used 1-2% of storage capacity.

            On Bulgaria and Poland my understanding is they can still buy (russian) gas from other European countries, much like Ukraine has for some time now.

    • trompete [he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      This might be a good time for this to happen. This means these countries have time to replace their governments and restart gas imports before people freeze to death in winter. Gas will probably be routed through other countries for now, but I'm wondering how long this show of solidarity can go on as prices rise.

      So I'm not from Poland, but my understanding is that they already have the fascists in power basically and the other mayor alternative are libs, which probably are too ideologically inflexible to oppose this insanity. So who's going to be able to capitalize on this? Does anyone know what's going on?

      I would also like to hear about the political situation in Bulgaria.

      Edit: Seems like Poland actually did prepare for this, so they might be fine as long as gas keeps going to other European countries.